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someone in amd gunna get fired.
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post #22 of 121
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Microsoft is not spending 1 dollar on this idea lol. They don't care about pleasing people which all together is 0.00001% of the total windows users.
See this is what starts all the stupid peeing competitions. This wasn't helpful nor informative. We all know what the performance is and isn't but let's be honest that there are more than a 100000th of a percent of Windows users that use AMD. Is it a significant number? Maybe not but that may be because a lot of AMD users lean towards Linux. It just happens I haven't put Linux on my new hardware yet. Don't get me wrong I am not saying that MS will put out patch for just BD but it is a pluasible subject.
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just a thought i like intel vs amd when it comes to cpus but look at sandy bridge didnt they do a stop ship on them motherboards and cpus? or its a market ploy the invisible ace up amd's sleeve. amd pushed this out so intel will push theirs out and before you kno a bios update and bd will be on top or close to it. give it time!!
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Honestly, BD will find its niche in due time, whether through updated software or not. The only thing really making me facepalm is the power consumption. A 32nm CPU should not consume over 250 watts for a 24/7 stable air OC...That's just flat-out stupid.
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Honestly, BD will find its niche in due time, whether through updated software or not. The only thing really making me facepalm is the power consumption. A 32nm CPU should not consume over 250 watts for a 24/7 stable air OC...That's just flat-out stupid.
Really? Even with 8 physical cores churning away at 4.6+ GHz? I don't think it's that much more than a x6 Thuban running at 4.6 GHz, if you can get one that fast.
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Really? Even with 8 physical cores churning away at 4.6+ GHz? I don't think it's that much more than a x6 Thuban running at 4.6 GHz, if you can get one that fast.
You can find Thubans at 4.2-4.4ghz that will probably be faster.

Compared to a i5-2500K at 4.6ghz it gets smoked in practically everything that matters.
    
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You can find Thubans at 4.2-4.4ghz that will probably be faster.

Compared to a i5-2500K at 4.6ghz it gets smoked in practically everything that matters to me.
fixed that for ya.
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Imo, it is way slower than expected but there is something wrong, as windows 8 gets a nice bump in performance, some service pack that AMD would pay for would be nice for its users to at least see performance where they see this CPU as a viable upgrade from the Phenom series. (lol im not upgrading because single threaded performance on my athlon is better .
I've seen the windows 8 numbers with BD and they're nothing great.




BD Still Loses. Imagine if they were compared clock for clock
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I've seen the windows 8 numbers with BD and they're nothing great.
You know they're desperate to find something when they start talking about Windows 8.
    
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Have some rep buddy.

What you say is actually full of sense.

I wonder what'd happened if AMD did this on the microcode:

1) if average CPU load<50% --> disable one core per module AND enable turbocore
2) if average CPU load>50% --> enable all eight cores and enable TC on half the cores


That way, on lightly threaded apps we'd see a clear benefit over Thuban, while still having juice on heavily threaded apps.


But I guess Windows can do that aswell with the proper update.
   
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