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Originally Posted by MinitroN View Post
You can find Thubans at 4.2-4.4ghz that will probably be faster.

Compared to a i5-2500K at 4.6ghz it gets smoked in practically everything that matters.
I don't think you paid attention to the context I wrote that in. You might wanna go back and read what I was responding to. Your post makes no sense.
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post #32 of 121
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You know they're desperate to find something when they start talking about Windows 8.
I figured the excuses would stop when the benchmarks came out but there's even more of them now
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...is mostly software based.
Wouldn't it have made sense, to make a chip that does work with current software
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post #34 of 121
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What they did was run POV-Ray on a single core of a BD and of a PII 1100T.
Then they ran on BD Core 1 + Core 2, which is both halves of a single module. Then they ran on BD Core 1 + Core 3, two cores from two separate modules.

What is most interesting in their findings is that running on Core 1 + Core 2, they saw a 67.6% improvement compared to running on a single core. But when they ran on Core 1 + Core 3, they saw a 97.5% improvement.
The problem is that, if you look at the test, Phenom II has both better core performance and scaling than BD, even when cores from separate modules are used
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Wouldn't it have made sense, to make a chip that does work with current software
well, it does work with current software, just not optimally. To improve software you often have to change the programming model and make the developers come to your platform.
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THIS. The way BD is intended to work is completely different; the OS scheduler needs to be BD aware to really take advantage of this chip.
Did someone bother to do benchmarks on 2600Ks and 2500Ks under Windows 8?

So I guess AMD have an Oracle type designer that can foresee things that's why they're saying BD will work "better" on the future releases of Windows.

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Originally Posted by Don Karnage View Post
I've seen the windows 8 numbers with BD and they're nothing great.




BD Still Loses. Imagine if they were compared clock for clock
Hey you down there.... look up here... ^^^^^^

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Did someone bother to do benchmarks on 2600Ks and 2500Ks under Windows 8?

So I guess AMD have an Oracle type designer that can foresee things that's why they're saying BD will work "better" on the future releases of Windows.

I guess you didn't notice that huge post on page 1.
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threw this question up in the bulldozer thread but no one answered

why does it perform miles ahead on boards other than asus the tests done not on an asus board looked pretty good (right between 2600k and 2500k) right where most of us expected it hell even the power consumption is almost halved on other boards

is there a problem with the asus bios that no one is noticing???


I am not getting this either. It looks like the power consumption isnt excessive at all but actually commendable with the 2 extra cores.
    
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Why are there so many benches comparing the 8150 to a 2500k? The 8150 costs as much as I bought my 2600k for and is supposedly 8 cores so why is it being compared to a cheaper processor with 4C/4T?
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I am not getting this either. It looks like the power consumption isnt excessive at all but actually commendable with the 2 extra cores.
Exactly. No one seems to notice or comment on how BD is getting around 5 GHZ speeds with sub 1.5 volts. This is amazing overclock ability! I need almost 1.5 volts to stabilize my 1090T at 4 GHz. Power consumption has actually decreased on the new architecture.
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