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Some quick back story. I just built a new PC about 2 weeks ago. My previous PC was about 5.5yrs old and I was on a budget so I replaced the mobo, cpu, and ram with an new i3, but used the old psu (actually only 1.5yrs old), dvd-rom, and hard drive.

I installed Win7, got everything going on my old Maxtor SATA1 250GB hard drive and used it for a few weeks. Then I decided I should probably get a new hard drive since this one is pretty old (and loud) and I could benefit from the increased speed, though I realize it wouldn't be INSANE increase like an SSD or something.

Anyway, so last night I got Samsung SATA2 1TB HD103SJ and plugged it (with the SATA cable that came with the mobo) and install Win7 again and got it all up and running. It definitely "seemed" quicker, and quieter, though not a HUGE difference, it basically "felt" like it ran smoother.

Then I started to download stuff, games, videos, pretty random collection of things. Now I should note that since the being of summer or so my 20Mbit dsl I'd been paying for had been doing about 12Mbits or so, but I was lazy and kept forgetting to call them. On speedtest.net I'd get 12mbit, and even on my PS3's network test it'd get 12Mbits. And my actual download speed would vary greatly from 700kb up to about 1.4mb most of this summer.

WELL, when I started the first download last night I noticed I was getting 2.0MB/s download speed. And I was like "oh wow, this site works well". Well as I proceeded to download stuff from other places and EVERY time I kept getting a constant 2.0MB/s download speed. It would ramp up to 2Mb/s but once it got there it stayed there and these were several 100MB files from various places.

I found this REALLY weird, even doing speedtest.net I was now getting 16.6Mbits when just yesterday I was still getting 12 that I had been getting all summer.

All I could chalk it up too was the hard drive as that is the ONLY thing that changed and that the computer was able to write to the hard drive faster now but I wanted to know if that makes sense or if that is possible that HDD connection speed would affect download rate speeds.

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No it won't improve download speeds unless you have a 100 Mbps download connection. Other than that download speeds depend on your ISP.
    
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The hard drive is not going to have an impact on the speed of your NIC.

It is possible that Win7 found a better driver for your NIC.

or you got lucky and this time that you tested you got a better speed. (BTW get on those fools...you pay for 20 you should get 20)

I know I cause a huge S storm if my 35/35 gets below 30 on my FiOS connection.

Drivers can be a serious PITA.

I know that when I just built my wife's rig a few times over for mobo issues and RAID issues and such...In Safe mode I would roll 4meg and then when actually in windows I would only get 150k.
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No, it will not. I get the same DL speeds on a PIII with an IDE HDD than on my sig rig with a short-stroked F3.

Unless you got something highly obscene like a 100 mbit/s or higher internet conenction it should not limit you.
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The cable and connection doesn't mean anything. SATA1 can do 150 MBps. Some of the old hard drives, however, are really slow. Like, 40 MBps slow. But it still sounds very unlikely.

Since your PS3 was limited to 12 Mbps too, you should try running Speedtest on that again. Nothing changed on the PS3, so it will show if your speed did indeed increase. Run Speedtest on the PC at the same time to make sure it's not different ISP/server loads that cause it.

An ISP only supplying 12 Mbps on a 20 Mbps subscription is illegal in Denmark, I'd kick their bottoms. You should complain.
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Hmmm, yeah that's just REALLY weird then.

Cause NOTHING else changed and it was just 2 weeks ago that I had setup the new PC (and got all the drivers). I understand what you guys are saying, and I've built PC's for a good 7 plus years (but don't know everything) but just doesn't make sense any other way why that would improve sudden overnight.

And it's an old PCI (not express) wireless-g card. Looking to replace with dual band adapter (as I have an Apple Airport) but not finding a lot of options.

Yeah I've been lazy about calling my ISP (Qwest now CenturyLink). I use to have Cox Cable and paid WAY too much for the fastest 28Mbit (fastest in my area) and had it for 3 weeks cause it was HORRIBLY unstable and they sent people out for about 4 days straight and couldn't find anything wrong with my stuff nor the neighborhood (Supposedly) and they just said "well we can't guaranteed those speeds." to which I said "Ok, but I should at LEAST get more than the next tier down!". So left them for Qwest and it's be solid ever since, until this summer, but just kept forgetting cause it never really affected me too much, and I was gone a lot this summer too.
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And it's an old PCI (not express) wireless-g card. Looking to replace with dual band adapter (as I have an Apple Airport) but not finding a lot of options.
This shouldn't matter. As long as there's good connection between the card and your router, you won't notice a difference. G is 54 Mbps, N is 300 Mbps. Since your connection is only 20 Mbps, both of these will work. N is really just for LAN speed.

Trying the PS3 speedtest?
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It's probably all attributed to traffic. However, as mentioned, if you're paying for 20Mb/s, you should receive 20Mb/s.
    
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I'm at work right now so can't test anything.

I should clarify, since beginning of summer my PC and PS3 have both been getting around 12Mbits. But since the last month/3weeks my PS3 has been getting 16Mbits while my PC was still getting 12Mbits. My PS3 is wired into the router, where as my PC is in the next room over with wireless-g card (that only gets 3 of 5 bars signal strength).

I've been testing it pretty frequently for months at all times of days and the test have always came out 12Mbits for my PC. So I'm pretty confident it was not just a "good night" for traffic/speeds or at least its a much smaller possibility.

I work 11hrs a day, 5 days a week so I just forget by the time I get home call Qwest. But also my friend has called them before about similar issues and he said they just test the modems connection to their hub which is ALWAYS max, despite any "real world" test you might show them, so basically they won't help you, so I also have bothering calling keeping this in mind and remember the ridiculous-ness I went thru at Cox.

All that aside, getting back on track, so everyone agrees there is NO way the hard drive could affect download speeds even though that is the ONLY thing that has changed? And I guess back off track, then what else could it be? I'll try more when I get I home but as I said I'm confident it was not a "one night" only thing as I've NEVER had it do that before, it's always stayed stable around about 12Mbits, never varying too much one way or the other.
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That's your ISPs fault. Not a hard drive. SATA I can do 150 Mbps, so unless you are supposed to be getting 160Mbps+ download. Getting a new hard drive isn't going to make a difference.
    
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