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Hi guys,
I am new to the boards & to the world of H/W upgrades and mods.

(I saw the thread that is there for this very model but wanted to make sure all the info. is up to date therefore posting a new thread, apologize if made a mistake)

I have a 2006 Dell Inspiron E1505 with T2050 processor, 120GB 5400 RPM SATA (dell site says 120G, Sata, 9.5, 5.4 W060)

I have upgraded from the initial 1GB RAM to 2GB. As far as I know that is the max. memory supported on that model. (Please correct me if I am wrong, I would love to add more memory).
I currently run XP-MCE 2005. I wish to upgrade the HDD and wanted to know a couple of things:

1. Does a SSD fit into this slot and is it compatible with the HDD connector I currently have?

2. Are there restrictions applicable if I put in the new SSD? Do I need to make any BIOS/Firmware upgrades before I put in the new SSD?

3. Can I run with XP or do I need to go to 7 to use all features? (will 7 run fast on my config? )

4. IS this a good drive (compatible?) and deal?
Kingston HyperX SH100S3B/120G 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) (HyperX Upgrade Kit)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820139601&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL101311&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL101311-_-EMC-101311-Index-_-SSD-_-20139601-L0A

Will I be able to use the SATA 3 features or they are not compatible and I should go for a SATA2?

All help is appreciated.thumb.gif

Thanks

hope to stick around and help out others in the future smile.gif

-Gms
Edited by gms19 - 10/13/11 at 11:39am
post #2 of 22
I have this same laptop that I used in college. I recently downgraded from my desktop to a laptop and was using this as a backup until I found a deal on my G73. For a while I was just thinking about adding more RAM and the SSD that I already had (Western Digital SiliconEdge Blue 128gb). I found out that the 2gb that I already had in the machine was as high as I could go, and that everything else, short of the CPU and HDD was as good as it was going to get.

I decided to install the SSD just to see how it woke the system up, since I didn't have anything else at the time to install it into. Boy, did it make a difference in such an old/slow laptop. I reinstalled Win 7 64 Ultimate and was very suprised by what a difference just an SSD made. Sure the system was still dated in some respects, but for the average PC user, it was definitely fast enough. Heck, I was even able to play TF2 and a couple other games that wouldn't even start with the 5400rpm HDD that came with the laptop!

Couple things however... I believe that you are stuck with SATA 1.5 on this machine, but I'm not 100% on that. You also will not be able to use TRIM since there is no ACHI option in the BIOS, so be sure that you get an SSD with decent garbage collection (they are all pretty good at this point though). One more thing, given the speed of the CPU/RAM, and the SATA speeds, that SSD you linked will be severly slowed down by the rest of the system. Granted, it will still make the laptop fly by comparison, just don't go running benchmarks expecting to see advertised speeds, because in all likelyhood, they will be less than half those...

EDIT:

To fully answer your questions:

1. Does a SSD fit into this slot and is it compatible with the HDD connector I currently have?

Yes, the stock HDD pulls out via a little tray on the right side of the laptop. Turn the machine off, pull that out, and the HDD should be attached to the tray by 2 screws. Remove them, put SSD in place, install screws, slide the SSD back in the same way you took the HDD out.

2. Are there restrictions applicable if I put in the new SSD? Do I need to make any BIOS/Firmware upgrades before I put in the new SSD?

I would check to make sure the BIOS is the most up to date version, although when I checked last there hadn't been an update for several years, so you are likely as up to date as you're going to be.

3. Can I run with XP or do I need to go to 7 to use all features? (will 7 run fast on my config? )

TRIM will not be an option on this laptop, so as far as I know, you should just use whatever OS you prefer, since you're going to be reliant on the SSD's own garbage collection. Keep in mind, although it's older adn won't be supported much longer, XP takes quite a bit less RAM and SSD/HDD space to run it. Just a thought.

4. IS this a good drive (compatible?) and deal?
Kingston HyperX SH100S3B/120G 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) (HyperX Upgrade Kit)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc..._-20139601-L0A

No opinion here, other than it would be a good "future proof" drive to get, since this laptop may or may not last the life of the SSD, so you could always put it in whatever machine you end up replacing it with down the road.


Let me know if you have any other questions!
Edited by allthatisman - 10/13/11 at 4:10pm
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post #3 of 22
That's not a very good choice of ssd. It's uses the Sandforce 2281 controller which can cause bsod at random intervals.

You don't need Sata III to be fast. Grab a good Sata II ssd and it'll make a big difference.
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@allthatisman WOW!! thanks for all the details

I guess i will have to rethink the Win7 usage and go with XP if it makes sense and helps in memory or performance issues (will do more research)

will also have to read up on TRIM and garbage and all other things (completely unknown to me as of now)

@mcg75 yes, I figured that out as soon as I posted frown.gif and read through some more SSD posts on the forum regarding the Sandforce 2281 issues. Thanks. Seems like the Crucial M4 is the best bet for now.

Do we get M4 in SATA II?? (or any other Crucial Models??)
If not I guess I can get the M4 and whenever I switch machines I can simply pull the drive out and use it again.

Thanks guys will post an update when I decide to go ahead with it
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Originally Posted by gms19;15306542 
@allthatisman WOW!! thanks for all the details

I guess i will have to rethink the Win7 usage and go with XP if it makes sense and helps in memory or performance issues (will do more research)

will also have to read up on TRIM and garbage and all other things (completely unknown to me as of now)

@mcg75 yes, I figured that out as soon as I posted frown.gif and read through some more SSD posts on the forum regarding the Sandforce 2281 issues. Thanks. Seems like the Crucial M4 is the best bet for now.

Do we get M4 in SATA II?? (or any other Crucial Models??)
If not I guess I can get the M4 and whenever I switch machines I can simply pull the drive out and use it again.

Thanks guys will post an update when I decide to go ahead with it

Not a problem. In the future, if you find something that someone posts helpful/informative, you can click the +rep button and give them some e-props, lol. Not that I'm asking, just trying to help a new guy out.

With respect to the SSD that you picked, I would probably shoot more for the Crucial M4 128gb drive instead. The max read speeds are somewhat subjective, as you will never really see that in real world usuage. Pretty much all gen 2 SSD's (you can't even really find a gen 1 model anymore) will be darn near identical in real world application tests. So even if you get an SSD, run it on the Inspiron for a little while, you can always take it out and add it to whatever machine you end up replacing it with. The speed difference that you will experience in the E1505 will be huge.

IMO, desktop machines don't really need an SSD, but I think that ALL laptops should come with them at this point. Laptop HDD's are painfully slow, given the supporting hardware in 99% of laptops out there.
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Didn't realise +rep was on the bottom of the profile, was trying to look for it next to the actual rep rating icon. +rep u for this one. biggrin.gif

1 more final question: I have only 1 slot so this SSD will become my primary HDD for OS as well as data. I usually partition my HDD as 30-40 GB OS+Programs (Win XP MCE)and remaining as data. I usually reformat my OS partition every 3-4 months to keep it clean and running fast, with an SSD I assume that won't be an issue but is it alright if I use the SSD for all the data too? Does that limit the life of the SSD with all those writes and reads etc?
post #7 of 22
Don't get the kingston get the crucial m4.

I have the 240GB version and i had had the drive disappear on me at least four times (along with many other people) since i've had it with no f/w release in sight.
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Contacted Kingston and was told -

"Our engineering department is testing the latest firmware released by SandForce.

They really want to make sure it will actually solve issues.

As soon as they are done we should get it."
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@khemist - Thanks
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Originally Posted by gms19;15294305 
All help is appreciated.thumb.gif

Welcome to the forums, GMS! wave2.gif

Allthatisman has provided some great information already, but I'll add this: here's my E1505 running Win7 Pro with a $50 Scorpio Black:
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Whether or not those times are acceptable, and the improvement/cost of an SSD is worth it resides solely with you.
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