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so i been doing CCNA studying lately, not too far into it still got a lot to learn gettin better at router configuration, setting up routing protocols, throwing switches into networks, all sorts of fun stuff

but im just wondering, i hear the CCNA exam has practical questions where you are typing at an IOS command line, but i know tests with CLI tend to suck REALLY bad

does it have the tab auto complete? does it support the ? (help) function? does it accept short hand commands?

these kinds of things are helpful to know while im going through practicing stuff
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It has help functions but only 'ish'.

So theoretically if you were to do something like configure an IP with a mask, it may not ask you for the mask on the simulator, or various small discrepancies like that.

But yes, a lot of the tests will give you a topology, goal, and management access to a device or devices and it's up to you to solve the problem using a mock CLI interface. I believe tab and shorthand function correctly.
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any more info would be appreciated!
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Its been over 5 years since I took CCNA, but as I recall I had 2 questions of this type and they were both very simple.

You get a problem description and a topology. You can click on the icons in the topology to get a CLI.

I've heard that you miss the question if you don't save your changes and that you must do it with "copy run start" and not "wr". That could be urban legend for all I know, but its no big deal so why risk it?

Not much more to tell really. The Cisco exams are well executed. I've taken about 10and I've never had techinical difficulties with any of them.
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I took it about a year ago, and I am pretty sure you have to be able to type in the command, not Tab complete it. I'm not sure if you are going the 2 test route or 1, but regardless, you should be able to subnet as you sleep before you are ready. Just my 2 cents.
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lol subnetting isnt even hard

people over play it whether you are using cidr with vlsm or just all classful it seems to be the easiest part of ccna material to me, just because its so fundamental...

stuff i am concerned with is just test specific concerns like if it will accept commands like "sh ru" instead of "show running-config"

typing out a longer command rather than the abbreviated i actually use in my practices seems like its just asking for a typo... that is one of the reasons i HATED the lpi exams is because it had fill in the blank and any actual admin just uses tab completion half the time

also, i was curious about the ? function because i seem to forget some stupid and seemingly useless commands occasionally like "no ip domain-lookup" but its just because my brain just hates me and doesnt want to cooperate so it is easily remedied with the ? function of IOS in a matter of seconds

the above post (two up) is a perfect example of my concerns because "copy run start" is also an abbreviated command, the longer version would be "copy running-config startup-config"


i have used a lot of CLI and VM simulation stuff for testing before, and it never seems to be quite perfect even networks set up in packet tracer have weird problems occasionally when configured 100% perfect

EDIT: specified which above post as to avoid confusion
Edited by EntTheGod - 10/17/11 at 1:46pm
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When i took it LONG ago there were no short cuts, you had to know each command not just "sh ru" but that was long ago. Im not even sure of the validity of the CCNA. I know sub netting is useful but learn Cisco specific commands i dont think is anymore.
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Kind of a late reply, but I took my CCNA about 7 months ago...

As I remember, most of the simulations would take shortened commands but tab-complete didn't work. The context-help system was functional, but in a seemingly limited fashion (could have also been that most of the simulated environments run on very, very old IOS code, so a lot of the options may just have simply not be present). But more over, the Sims on the CCNA exam were simple, basic stuff. If I remember correctly, my test had three Sims, one was literally as simple as enabling EIGRP routing on a new router added to an existing network, one was a little more in-depth VTP configuration on a series of switches, and one was just a basic three-line ACL example.

If you want to study and practice, truly the best thing to do is grab some old Cisco gear and build yourself a small lab. When I committed to learn IOS, I actually went out and bought an 881W router and used it as my home router. Lots of people on eBay will actually sell you "exam lab kits," basically consisting of two or three 2600 series routers and 2-4 2950 switches, all for about $100. Not too bad all things considered. If money's tight, a program I really liked for simulation was GNS 3 (graphical network simulator). It was buggy (crashed on me more times than I care to remember), but it was probably the best simulator in that it was actually an emulator running actual IOS code, so it ran just as any router would. The gotcha there though is you need to have actual IOS images available to run, but I managed to find a distribution of the software that included images for a 1700, 2600, and 7200 series router. It is however largely limited to routing and layer 3 type stuff since apparently it's very difficult to emulate the ASICs of a switch.
    
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They don't got short forms.
Being a part of the Cisco Academy I haven't taken the test yet but reading the books, CBT Nuggets, and also using Packet Tracer / GNS3 / & BOSON Helps.
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They don't got short forms.
Being a part of the Cisco Academy I haven't taken the test yet but reading the books, CBT Nuggets, and also using Packet Tracer / GNS3 / & BOSON Helps.
from the people who have taken the test, it seems shortened commands do work

and even if you are learning cisco stuff, if you dont know shortened commands yet it would be great to look into as it saves a lot of typing time if there is a command that is unique up to a certain amount of letters... like show is unique at sh so you can just use sh instead of typing out show, and running-config is unique up to ru so you can show running-config with just sh ru its quite nice...
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