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eh..if you want to upgrade..you can go 2500k/1155 mobo..OR..you could get an m4n98td-evo..and a 1090-1100T ..and overclock it biggrin.gif i shelved the sandy bridge platform (because i put this together in anticipation of faildozer) ..and have no desire to put sandy bridge back together..the amd is snappier where it counts for me..desktop apps..and browser response time..games run fine,too..sandy bridge loads levels a bit faster..that's about it
 
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They invented a new word for failure.

Get a sandy now, laugh with ivy later.
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post #23 of 35
I think these forums just love to tell people to spend more money! lol

I say spend money on a Notebook, that way it will help with your studies in Uni, your Desktop would be more then adequite (sp?)

Cheers,

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Yea, raid is great, I bought that extra 750 caviar black just to do it with, and it really did help. And for me, data loss isn't a big issue, I build and repair pc's for a living and I'm always adding, modding, reformatting, all that. (which I am trying to do less of) but for someone who needs it running 24/7 with no hassles or issues, I would at least keep stability and reliability in mind. Theres nothing worse than working an entire week on a paper, and having a hdd crash the night before its due.
The only reason I even stated it is just because when using raid 0, if one drive goes, both go. So if this is a route you decide to go, make sure you get a good drive, like a WD Cavier Black, or a Spinpoint F3 (although I think the Black has a better track rec, and a longer warranty), and on top of that, an external for backup isn't such a bad idea either.


After thinking about all this, my biggest question is.. why not get a laptop now?
If your desktop is still keeping up... why not just put a little bit more ram in it, a better cooler, over clock it and call it a day. Then go out and spend the rest on a laptop now.
A laptop is very handy when having to go from class to class across campus. And even if you don't use it as much the first semester, it'll give you time to set it up, get the software you need, and become used to it.

One big thing a lot of people don't know (users who are mainly desktopers) is that scrolling and moving around on a laptop (without a mouse) can become difficult and annoying to get around. So I highly, highly recommend getting a laptop with an oversized multi-gesture pad.
That way you can use the 2-finger scrolling, so u don't have to move it over to the side everytime you need to scroll. Also, zooming, rotating, and gestures come in handy, especially when launching new things (talking about gestures)

I just bought my mom an Acer Aspire 5750-6421. Paid $399 for it new.
It has an i3-2310 (2.1ghz) Intel HD 3000 gfx, 15.6 HD LED backlit lcd, 4 gb ddr3, 500gb hddd, dvd burner, and b/g/n wifi. It also has hdmi, a card reader and hd audio. And of course the webcam.
Oh and it has the multitouch pad, which is nice.
You really can't beat that for $399.
Just thought I'd share my experience, it's good computer.
(I didn't like Acer much b4 just bcuz they mostly target the low budget crowd which usually comes with lesser quality, but I am happy to say their quality has increased a lot and it feels like I'm using a $700 laptop)

If you're going the netbook route, spend that bit extra and grab one with a ssd, use an external for your vids and all, for easy transfer between.
    
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post #25 of 35
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Thanks for all the replies everyone, rep will be added after this.

Jtmarch86, thanks for all the ideas. I don't actually start Uni til next year, so a laptop right now just won't be used. I will be taking my desktop with me though so the laptop is just for notes in class.

Looks like the majority have said to upgrade, so I think I shall.

Is there a big difference between the G45 and the GD53?
And if I plan to get an SSD later on, am I better off getting a Z68 board? Is there a big difference in performance with SSDs between P67 and Z68?
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post #26 of 35
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/msi-z...a-on-board-atx

get this with the 2500k, it will allow you to use ivy bridge processors when you upgrade, and you will be able to use the new PciE 3 graphics cards when they come out.
    
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post #27 of 35
there is no SSD speed difference between P67 and Z68.
if you buy a small SSD like 20GB then you can use that as cache on Z68 which speeds up your standard HDD with OS on it.

But if you are going to be buying one in the future you might as well get 60GB so you can install OS on it and dont need cache. In that instance Z68 and P67 will perform same.
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Heres the thing:
SSD caching is a nice feature if you want to increase your speed and still keep the expenses low. However, P67 chipset doesn't support ssd caching, only the Z68 does. Z68 also has Lucid Virtue which utilizes the gfx onboard the SB cpu, which really speeds up things like video encoding. For SSD caching (Intel SRT) you can only use a ssd between 18-64gb i think (or partition one somewhere within there)
So if you plan on getting a small ssd to save money, definitely get a Z68 board so u can use the caching feature.
But, if you can afford a bigger ssd, say a 64gb or 128gb, use it as your main system drive for your OS and main programs and games, it will be even faster than using a small ssd for caching. Also, as far as which ssd to get.. the Crucial M4 is, in a lot of peoples opinions, the best and most reliable out there, although sandforce controlled ssd's like the OCZ Vertex 3 and Agility 3 are faster, but are known to have a lot of issues. I would highly recommend a Crucial M4, even if u can only afford the 64gb version.

I went with the Asus P8Z68-V Pro motherboard and I love it.
I planned on getting a ssd but didn't know how much money I would have, so having the caching feature was a nice option.
If you want though, you can grab, say the Asus P8P67-V Pro to save a bit of money, and grab a 64gb or 128 gb ssd for the system drive, since you wont need the caching feature then.
Either way, make room in your budget for an ssd, you will be very very pleased. I can promise you that.

As far as those motherboards, I always lean to Asus and Gigabyte. They all overclock well, and have great support. MSI is good too tho, if thats in your price range.
I think one of the main differences between those motherboards you jut mentioned was the addition of firewire, which, I don't use at all, and less and less products are using it. Especially since usb 3.0 is faster, and more widely used.

If you want some help pickin out some things let me know.
I built mine for about 800
but that included motherboard, cpu, hdd, cooler, case, drive, ram, psu, and gfx card. So if you have stuff like a dvd burner, psu, ram, and hdd you can use, let me know that way u can get better stuff within your budget
    
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post #29 of 35
I went from a phenom 965 at 4ghz to a 4.5ghz 2500k and the games that was giving me crappy fps suddenly shot up to 60fps and stayed there!
Had to buy, mobo, ram and cpu and gave some of my old stuff away so it was abig upgrade for me cash wise, well worth every penny
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Heres a owners club thread here at OCN for those MSI motherboards you were talking about. If those are the ones you've knocked it down to, maybe they'll be able to explain what the difference is between them better.
http://www.overclock.net/intel-mothe...gd55-gd53.html
    
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