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Originally Posted by Malcom28 View Post
but for those who building a new pc or upgrading from something old , the FX 8150 can be a good choice for him .
Building from scratch a 2500K is cheaper and a better choice.
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Originally Posted by Vagrant Storm View Post
Jagged...you really got to stop this. You are making Bulldozer look worse. Or is that your goal? You have demonstrated over and over your complete lack of understanding in CPU benchmarks. There is a reason why it was ran at 1024x768. I won't tell you why so that you actually go out and learn something. Though likely others have told you countless times and you just ignored them.

Have you at least figured out that lower scores on superpi are better yet?

I still think you are actually running an Intel rig...no one could actually care about this as much as you do and actually mean it.
there some 1024x768 for you : )

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph4955/41705.png

http://www.legitreviews.com/images/reviews/1741/re5.jpg

http://hothardware.com/articleimages/Item1742/etqw.png
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Building from scratch a 2500K is cheaper and a better choice.
2600k>FX8150>2500k

i think i proved that..

http://www.overclock.net/amd-cpus/11...-all-good.html

and then i can say FX8150 is cheaper and a better choice then 2600K .
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anyone who designs an aircraft with a downward firing ejection seat probably ended up working for AMD marketing

jokes aside, what I am getting at is that the chip isn't the deal maker it is meant to be. No one cares about what these things can do in 5 years with new software. Most of us care about the here and now apps that we use today. It fails in being the dominating force it was hyped up to be years ago. They even softened the expectations as years went by... Intel have made flops before but with the production time it took to bring this chip out i expected better. Glad i jumped on SB
i am new to this forum, but i am at a loss as to why people who are talking strongly on these matters know less than me about the intended policies and aims of the competing corporations.

bulldozer is for multicore performance. its aim, has been declared as such. its roadmap, is as such.

8 core chip is out for desktop, but 16 core chips are already shipped to server producers.

amd did this design in order to be able to slap more cores (modules) without needing to do additional research. and this is why they said they would put out chips every year with 10-15% performance increase at the minimum.

this means that you will see 12-20 core/module chips in a year. and even more next year.

this means the world in regard to server environment. the more cores you have, the better it gets.

and during this time, the retooling process of the manufactories will be complete, the cutting process will have bettered, and the chip will perform much better as a unit that it was, and with the increased cores to boot. they will be able to just slap more cores, if intel comes up with something else.

this, is a failsafe plan. the only hunchback of this plan is, the software not being too multicore friendly. we are seeing at most 4 core user applications or games nowadays. this definitely wont stay like that for sure, but, if it does not change soon, the advantage of having more cores over intel may be pointless for amd.

so this means, amd needs to let software producers utilize its many cores and it needs to do it fast. the tools and libraries to do it are already out on amd side, and amd is doing sufficient promotion. so, its just a matter of time.

and, if they implement the deal with assigning more cores than one to single threads, that would not only nullify intel, but also bring about a revolution in computing. that 'if' is not a big if - they are aiming for that, but, they said that it would not be 'in this generation'.

im not even going to enter into trinity, opencl and various other stuff.
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How about this...

An overclocked 8150 ($280) done by El Gappo vs clock for clock comparison done by myself with an i5-2500k ($220)?

I can't match his ram, but I did the best I could.

Cinebench:

8150


i5-2500k



Geekbench:

8150


i5-2500k



h.264:

8150


i5-2500k



wPrime:

8150


i5-2500k



Vantage:

8150


i5-2500k



3DMark11:

8150


i5-2500k




Everyone of these tests uses eight cores, games will not. I hope this helps.
Edited by BallaTheFeared - 10/13/11 at 7:07pm
    
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2600k>FX8150>2500k

i think i proved that..

http://www.overclock.net/amd-cpus/11...-all-good.html

and then i can say FX8150 is cheaper and a better choice then 2600K .
You didn't prove anything with your cherry picked benchmarks.

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and yet they advertise bang for buck in 3d gaming.

I still don't see it and haven't since 2004. I fear the worst for competition. AS INtel product cycles seem to be increasing how the hell does it matter what this thing does in a year or two compare to what intel has coming? They need something to WOW the masses in 3d gaming. As you can tell, i dont care about server workstations. Yes, its great but I am clearly stating what my opinion is for my market interest. That is all.
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Oye, none of my screens have cpu running full speed.

Ops.

Anyways, here is cpuz under load, same settings I used for testing.



As Don pointed out, even though the 8150 is slightly faster, or slower depending on the benchmark against an i5-2500k, it is also drawing over twice as much power.
    
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it is so wasted of money just for BF3 gaining 5-6 FPS. Hooah!

Let's burn $300 for 5 FPS...

Maybe good for new buyers but for upgrades it is totally rip off.
I think it might be more than that for me, I'm still rockin a Phenom OG.
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I think you'll still be gpu limited, regardless of what processor you're running.
    
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