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Enjoy yourself, nothing wrong with that.
See, that is the whole point of this site, is that we all enjoy computer hardware and what goes along with it. This bickering, arguing, trolling, fanboy-ism here seems is a very bothering issue to me. I still cannot put my finger on it why but it seems that people are much meaner/rude/stupid/dumb whatever when they are online. I'm not perfect but I try my best, but honestly this whole BD thing over the last few months has been ridiculous. My .02
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That may be the case but it shouldn't matter. Bulldozer should have performed basically the same regardless of motherboards or video cards.
lol, What an idiot. A BIOS has everything to do with CPU Performance.
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lol, What an idiot. A BIOS has everything to do with CPU Performance.
SHH don't let the cat out of the bag that binary STILL controls EVERYTHING.

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Originally Posted by Obakemono View Post
Is there ANY thread that has BD info in it that does not contain trolls, crap and whining? I would like to know what is going on without going through 500 pages of junk posts with no relevance.
I wish I could say yes but the answer is no. For every 1 person on here trying to be genuinely useful there are 2 people on here that post simply to enhance their "post count" , "rep count" , and epeen.


Overclock.net wishes to be a professional site but they seem to moderate very selectively and biased. Frankly I wish they would get more strict and moderate and discipline the children more. It was out of hand before this release now its off the deep end as far as I am concerned and I've lost a lot of respect for the site. I may have only registered this year but it was simply because of bulldozer and a few other questions I had that I did. I think its soon time for me to lurk again and delete this account as I don't wish to be counted as part of a community that claims to be professional but isn't. THW is obviously where I need to do my lurking again.



BACK TO THE TOPIC:


It seems that there is a major basic input/output system PROBLEM. Gigabyte just pulled the bios all the reviewers using gigabyte and bulldozer used. That indicates a major problem. Asus seems to have had a major problem with their CHV board since it was released and it still hasn't been fixed.

(that doesn't surprise me considering I have not used an ASUS board for 3 builds simply because their bios have always been substandard and sometimes worse than the defaults)

I am thinking there may be a few problems that we've seen with this release. Some of it is probably the chip and the architecture. I will postulate though that most of it is actually bios/motherboard/software problems. I mean still most software isnt multithreaded and thats where bulldozer is really meant to be is in multithreaded tasks.
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post #194 of 365
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Originally Posted by Obakemono View Post
See, that is the whole point of this site, is that we all enjoy computer hardware and what goes along with it. This bickering, arguing, trolling, fanboy-ism here seems is a very bothering issue to me. I still cannot put my finger on it why but it seems that people are much meaner/rude/stupid/dumb whatever when they are online. I'm not perfect but I try my best, but honestly this whole BD thing over the last few months has been ridiculous. My .02
It seems as though the shroud of anonymity that everyone believes they have entitles them to be rude/mean/stupid, plainly put an ass hole.

It's e-peen competitions, and of course everyone wants their horse (INTEL vs AMD, Ford VS Chevy, etc) to win.


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lol, What an idiot. A BIOS has everything to do with CPU Performance.
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Is there ANY thread that has BD info in it that does not contain trolls, crap and whining? I would like to know what is going on without going through 500 pages of junk posts with no relevance.
Seems like the owner's club is the place to be. Or at least will be when people get their toys to play with and can share their results. But it seems that you've found your way there already. Just a hunch, but I believe the club will be more closely moderated than the plethora of other threads.
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SHH don't let the cat out of the bag that binary STILL controls EVERYTHING.
Look at the Phenom's II Performance when you are using the first BIOS release on a Crosshair IV, and then compare it to the very latest stable release,
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The Hardware Heaven review showed BD to be much faster in gaming than the 2600k. Maybe this is an ASUS fail more than an AMD fail (?).
This. The Hardware Heaven benchmarks were much stronger for BD performance. The FX 8150 outperformed 2600K in 3DMark11, Shogun 2, F1 2011, and Deus Ex Human Revolution.
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Look at the Phenom's II Performance when you are using the first BIOS release on a Crosshair IV, and then compare it to the very latest stable release,
Thats not going to happen as I will never buy an ASUS motherboard until they can prove to me they can release stable bios for their MBs. Theyve had a real problem with that even since before I left them


HOWEVER, most of the companies had to update bios for their boards with Phenom 2 and we saw some real improvements with the stability and performance when they did. Im looking ot see if we can see the same performance and stability improvements when they do. My primary concern with the BD is the power consumption. Its 125 TDP so thats partially to blame on a 32m chip compared to the 95 TDP of Sandybridge i5. It seems to be pretty close to the i7 2600k until you OC and then it gets out of hand. It should be interesting to see if the bios updates do show an improvement there as thats my main concern right now. I wanted to run xfire 6970s with an 8150 but I dont think thats going to be possible with my 850TX if the power consumption at load. Mind you I don't overclock I just like to have the best.


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This. The Hardware Heaven benchmarks were much stronger for BD performance. The FX 8150 outperformed 2600K in 3DMark11, Shogun 2, F1 2011, and Deus Ex Human Revolution.

They also used the MB I have right now which when I bought it less than a month ago was the ONLY board on NEWEGG that listed the FX as a compatible chipset. I wonder if there was something to that.

seems the GB and ASUS boards did poorly and the MSI and ASrock boards faired better.
 
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There is no performance difference, every test they did with the MSI and ASrock boards that they did with the ASUS board provided the same result.

The only difference was they used a few different tests, and their gaming tests were all gpu bottlenecked.
"the sun rises from the west and your underpants are wet".

should i believe what i see, or what you say. i prefer the former.
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This. The Hardware Heaven benchmarks were much stronger for BD performance. The FX 8150 outperformed 2600K in 3DMark11, Shogun 2, F1 2011, and Deus Ex Human Revolution.
There is a 1-3 fps difference which denotes a gpu bottleneck, not a STRONG cpu performance difference.
    
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