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You do understand based on logic alone your comment makes absolutely no sense, right?
No, I don't understand.

Please explain your logic.
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Here is an ASRock Extreme4 board:
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/review...roduction.html

SB owns at low res, BD owns at high res.

It seems that 2600k is the better buy if you are doing low res gaming, BD is the better buy for hi-res gaming.
4.2GHz vs 3.4GHz? That's really smart.

Let alone overclocking, finding the option to enable the Turbo mode on the 2600k must have been too much a task for HWH.
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Here is an ASRock Extreme4 board:
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/review...roduction.html

SB owns at low res, BD owns at high res.

It seems that 2600k is the better buy if you are doing low res gaming, BD is the better buy for hi-res gaming.
Two CPU's going at it at a low resolution is exactly what you need to look at because it shows what the CPU can do at it's best without a GPU bottleneck. A higher resolution with higher in-game settings increases the chances of a GPU bottleneck. As you increase resolution and in-game settings the FPS starts looking more and more similar. As others have said many times, it doesn't show a CPU's best work as it's being limited by a GPU!
Edited by BrEnKeR - 10/14/11 at 3:49pm
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Two CPU's going at it at a low resolution is exactly what you need to look at because it shows what the CPU can do at it's best without a GPU bottleneck. A higher resolution with higher in-game settings increases the chances of a GPU bottleneck. As you increase resolution and in-game settings the FPS starts looking more and more similar.
Exactly as I said. SB owns at low res. If you're a low res gamer, get the SB.

If you're a high-res gamer, BD owns using the EXACT same video card.

BD gets more out of the same video card, SB is slower at higher res.
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No, I don't understand.

Please explain your logic.
At lower res SB performs better because its faster, with lower res there is more demand on the cpu because the fps will be higher as the gpu workload per frame isn't as high.

At higher res using the same video card the workload for the cpu is a lot less, because the workload per frame for the gpu is much greater causing fps to be lower.


Since the SB is faster at lower res, that means that it will also be faster at higher res, so long as the gpu power scales with the resolution. Any difference occurred when the gpu is the limiting factor can be associated to human error and % margin differences within the same test.
    
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Since the SB is faster at lower res, that means that it will also be faster at higher res, so long as the gpu power scales with the resolution. Any difference occurred when the gpu is the limiting factor can be associated to human error and % margin differences within the same test.
Obviously that is not the case.

Just look at the high-res benchmarks, BD is owning.

At high-res, BD is clearly owning. Low res gamers would be better off with SB, I'll concede that.

BD owns at the high res with the EXACT same video card.

I could understand your statement using different cards but it's the EXACT same video card clearly showing SB owns at low-res, BD owns at hi-res.
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Obviously that is not the case.

Just look at the high-res benchmarks, BD is owning.

At high-res, BD is clearly owning. Low res gamers would be better off with SB, I'll concede that.

BD owns at the high res with the EXACT same video card.

I could understand your statement using different cards but it's the EXACT same video card clearly showing SB owns at low-res, BD owns at hi-res.
It's no owning. It's all within the margin of error, and AMD's PCI-E lines are obviously improved. Good for them.

It's still an 8core K8.
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Obviously that is not the case.

Just look at the high-res benchmarks, BD is owning.

At high-res, BD is clearly owning. Low res gamers would be better off with SB, I'll concede that.

BD owns at the high res with the EXACT same video card.

I could understand your statement using different cards but it's the EXACT same video card clearly showing SB owns at low-res, BD owns at hi-res.

    
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Obviously that is not the case.

Just look at the high-res benchmarks, BD is owning.

At high-res, BD is clearly owning. Low res gamers would be better off with SB, I'll concede that.

BD owns at the high res with the EXACT same video card.

I could understand your statement using different cards but it's the EXACT same video card clearly showing SB owns at low-res, BD owns at hi-res.
lol, if SB sucks at higher resolution BUT owning at a lower resolution, why would SB turn into a flop at a higher resolution, while BD magically turning out better at the higher resolution? Give us an educated guess or explanation.
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lol, if SB sucks at higher resolution BUT owning at a lower resolution, why would SB turn into a flop at a higher resolution, while BS turn out better at the higher resolution?
It's not a flop. Both are very good.

SB does better for low-res gamers, for gamers that turn up all the settings, BD does better.

BD just does better at higher res, you can see the results for themselves here.

BD wins in practically every hi-res benchmark.
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/review...onclusion.html

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