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I just commented on that blog, I am curious to see if they will allow my comment to appear.

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This is a perfect example of marketing choosing exactly the numbers that suit the product to promote it and bend the truth. Most of the people reading this dont really understand but good going picking a graphics card limited game to compare cpus, i guess by your example the phenom is really with a 5% margin of the 2600k while the 8150 is 5% better. Yet in 95% of the benchmarks that truly measure CPU performance the 8150 is miles behind the 2600k and even stuggles to compete with the phenoms.

I am sorry AMD, I really want you to do well, hell I even own an AMD graphics card but trying to spin the truth only makes me want to stop supporting you. I fully expect this comment to be moderated of course but what the hell at least one of you AMD guys will hopefully read it.
post #142 of 231
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Bulldozer is weak cpu,its just that it doesnt metter in 90% of games
It does matter once you decide to run Multi-GPU setups and thats where literally every AMD processor becomes a bottleneck.
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who ever posted the tweaktown bench's, I call its an unfair test, yes the 2600k has been favoured in the benchs 5.2ghz vs 4.76ghz, yes you will get a slight gain in performance heck even myself running my cpu at stock 4.0 4.5 4.8 and 5ghz i noticed a difference in scores. A proper benchmarking company would have tested both cpus at the same speeds.
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Well, If Windows 7 ain't doing too well for bulldozer, Then why don't they try testing with Windows XP??

I seriously think it is a software issue. But i think that has been repeated too many times...
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post #145 of 231
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who ever posted the tweaktown bench's, I call its an unfair test, yes the 2600k has been favoured in the benchs 5.2ghz vs 4.76ghz, yes you will get a slight gain in performance heck even myself running my cpu at stock 4.0 4.5 4.8 and 5ghz i noticed a difference in scores. A proper benchmarking company would have tested both cpus at the same speeds.
Testing at the same speeds is irrelevant when the core count, architecture and CPU brand are different.

Just sayin'
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i think it is relevant since the 2600k has its hyper threading, i remember seeing a benchmark with the 2600k vs the 980x both same clocks and the 2600k did better it, so why couldnt they run the same in this bench with same clocks?
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1st was that I hate how benchmarkers always remove the 'gpu bottleneck' when that's how 99% of PC gaming systems run, with 1 mid-level gpu @ 1080p, not without a gpu somewhere between 480p and 720p. I think it exaggerates the effect cpus have on the FPS and that's been my position for YEARS
So basically you meant to say: "I hate benchmarks that show how far behind the bad CPU is compared to competition. I like the ones that limit better CPUs down to the level of the crappy ones."

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To "BD will be awesome in x years after fixes and right software", I really hope AMD has something better to show in x years when BD finally gets to the same level as SBs were x years ago...

Also to "BD will be fine with a few patches", it's not like AMD just made these processors, waiting for the release day reviews and now started to work on fixes based on those results (I HOPE!). They've had months and months of time to run the same exact benchmarks and make the fixes, yet they have failed to do that. So I highly doubt there's gonna be a magical fix right around the corner that will fix everything.

It would be awesome tho if they managed to fix this before I go ahead and get a SB setup by xmas. Would have another option to consider and might even change my mind. Doesn't look promising...
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I kept reading "ideal for high resolution gaming" in there when almost all evidence says otherwise.
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who ever posted the tweaktown bench's, I call its an unfair test, yes the 2600k has been favoured in the benchs 5.2ghz vs 4.76ghz, yes you will get a slight gain in performance heck even myself running my cpu at stock 4.0 4.5 4.8 and 5ghz i noticed a difference in scores. A proper benchmarking company would have tested both cpus at the same speeds.
I'm pretty sure they benched with the maximum possible OC they have managed to achieve.

After all, Bulldozer seems NOT to be the good overclocker that it was said to be. AMD stated 5+ GHz on air will easily be possible, but I have yet to see a benchmark where they achieved this.
The IMMENSE power draw of the CPU and high temperatures bound to it just dont allow for anything higher than 4,6-4,8 really and lets face it, the 2600k at same clock would still devastate it.
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I'm pretty sure they benched with the maximum possible OC they have managed to achieve.

After all, Bulldozer seems NOT to be the good overclocker that it was said to be. AMD stated 5+ GHz on air will easily be possible, but I have yet to see a benchmark where they achieved this.
The IMMENSE power draw of the CPU and high temperatures bound to it just dont allow for anything higher than 4,6-4,8 really and lets face it, the 2600k at same clock would still devastate it.
^^^ A 2600K is faster at STOCK speeds then an OVERCLOCKED Bulldozer.
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