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post #151 of 231
what i was trying to get at was look at the physics scores
3.5ghz
http://3dmark.com/3dm11/1998386?show...CRfBrwB5BENK7g

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http://3dmark.com/3dm11/1998425?show...weAM_AAqWENPUw

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http://3dmark.com/3dm11/1998495?show...IGk-EIyDUf-ayQ

as u can see just from 4.7 to 5.2 there was a big jump in score wise(physics) but yes it will be different for them since they have 3 570's and i have a single 560ti but even just overclocking my cpu made my gpu scores go up a little too
not talking like 2fps ect i know its only like .1-.3fps but it made a difference, i would just like to see em do a test with the 2600k at 4.7 and then see the difference since the extreme scores with the 2 where very close
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post #152 of 231
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Wait, didn't AMD also blame Windows 7? That it does not properly support the new arch?
They need Microsoft to update the scheduler for Bulldozer, or they're screwed. Attacking them over this issue would most certainly not be in their best interests.
     
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post #153 of 231
Did that article mention "high resolution gaming" followed by that botched excuse of a benchmark at 1080p? How about the real deal with high resolutions:

post #154 of 231
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That stinks I like Win7 and had no interest in upgrading to Win8 in the near future.
Windows 7 is out now. AMD should not have designed a chip that needs an OS that is not even been released yet. That is their dumb mistake. If they are smart, they would be working with Microsoft to try and develop a patch (if even possible) to help with Bulldozer performance.
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post #155 of 231
hey..if you want to slam 'um...the fb page is where it's at..lol
 
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post #156 of 231
I think it's important for a company to develop technologies in a push to support a change in future technologies.

No offense to anyone here, but a lot of the times customers get stupid when it comes to the release of a "new" technology, and often arrive at many unsubstantiated assumptions. Did AMD boast about their developments a bit too much early on? Perhaps.

But it's still important to look beyond our current performance bottleneck reliant on raw clock speed and single-threaded performance, and look to different implementations of architecture for the future. Is BD architecture premature for our current implementations? Yes, I would say unarguably yes.

AMD took a gamble that consumers would be satisfied with this release even though it doesn't blast the competition away. And maybe it will still work (doubtful)--I can say that whatever it does, it's still faster than the desktop I'm using now, so on a price-point, it's still a viable "upgrade" for a lot of users, just likely not the enthusiasts that look for every next upgrade/release.

The power consumption is disappointing. But it's a new architecture with kinks to work out.

Yes, this was a "nice" bit of marketing from an AMD marketing person--and I think most of us understand the real story, and have seen more than just the BF3 benchmarks for the BD release.

It doesn't make the processors incapable of running, just that for people with i5 and i7 2500k and 2600k it won't be an upgrade.

Yes, it's sad that for some instances, it doesn't even match the previous generations' performance from AMD. I still give them credit for a gutsy move--and a move I believe in, just not sure it'll pan out at the current time.

And who knows how windows 8 will handle all of this.
    
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post #157 of 231
Well, this response from AMD is expect. They can't come out and say "yes we ****ed up, BD sucks, please go buy a 2500k." The only scenario that makes BD look competitive is in a GPU limited scenario, so they have to use that.
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Did that article mention "high resolution gaming" followed by that botched excuse of a benchmark at 1080p? How about the real deal with high resolutions:

Because you are going to notice a 0.7 FPS difference w/ 2500k or 1.6FPS difference w/ 2600K at the resolution

Bulldozer is a step forward for AMD despite everything. It is an improvement on K10, even on power consumption. Bulldozer is essentially an 8 core design. All of them are unlocked, unlike Sandy Bridge, which has only the 2500K and the 2600K unlocked (IIRC).

I think, as with any new architecture, there are are a few issues that need to be resolved, but this is why they will release a new stepping.

And if bulldozer is as bad as you say. Don't buy it. Bulldozer's release does mean that the viability of a Thuban is increase as its price decreases.

How many people bought P4 when intel released it? Enough people for intel to use the money to revert back to a PIII based design.If there is something fundamental wrong with the architecture, AMD will revert back to the K10 architecture.
    
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Did that article mention "high resolution gaming" followed by that botched excuse of a benchmark at 1080p? How about the real deal with high resolutions:

And wasn't DIRT 3 'enhanced' for AMD??
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Windows 7 is out now. AMD should not have designed a chip that needs an OS that is not even been released yet. That is their dumb mistake. If they are smart, they would be working with Microsoft to try and develop a patch (if even possible) to help with Bulldozer performance.
This!

Make a processor that runs todays software as fast as possible, worry about tomorrows software tomorrow.
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