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Originally Posted by Skripka View Post
Yes AMD...a GPU dependent video game is a GREAT proof of your CPUs performance...that NO ONE will see through your ploy.

Does AMD really think we're THAT stupid?
Yes
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post #192 of 231
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Yes
No, I'd say they think the mainstream is that stupid. Plus they use big fancy words like 'eight-core' and '4 Ghz' and 'Turbo' to give an impression so skewed that the leaning tower of Pisa would be jealous...
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post #193 of 231
they shamelessly compare a quad-core to a 8-core and say that the 8-core is a couple frames faster and implies success typical AMD.
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post #194 of 231
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they shamelessly compare a quad-core to a 8-core and say that the 8-core is a couple frames faster and implies success typical AMD.
AMD has disappointed once, big deal...

do I need to bring out Netburst......

everything in ur sig even screams fanboy
    
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post #195 of 231
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they shamelessly compare a quad-core to a 8-core and say that the 8-core is a couple frames faster and implies success typical AMD.
its called "marketing".

If amd wanted to make a quadcore with 8 threads that will run 10 times faster than a 2600k, they can. and so can intel.

But both companies will make more money by increasing cpu speed a little at a time. the cpu industry is a business, not a race.
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post #196 of 231
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its called "marketing".

If amd wanted to make a quadcore with 8 threads that will run 10 times faster than a 2600k, they can. and so can intel.
So... you're telling me they intentionally made BD a flop. Yep. That makes sense.

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AMD has disappointed once, big deal...

do I need to bring out Netburst......

everything in ur sig even screams fanboy
Once? Do I need to point out the 2900xt? The 38xx series wasn't much better. Certainly nothing to brag about. Phenom I? To some extent, even, PhII?

You need to remember Netburst was almost 10 years ago. (Actually, over 10 years. It was intro'd in November 20, 2000) These are much more recent failures, especially in tech terms.
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So... you're telling me they intentionally made BD a flop. Yep. That makes sense.



Once? Do I need to point out the 2900xt? The 38xx series wasn't much better. Certainly nothing to brag about. Phenom I? To some extent, even, PhII?

You need to remember Netburst was almost 10 years ago. (Actually, over 10 years. It was intro'd in November 20, 2000) These are much more recent failures, especially in tech terms.
Intel owns the market, period. That is the reason why netburst were so bad.
The story started to change when they came up with centrino. They saw that the architecture under centrino could be put to use in desktops wth demolishing effects to AMD.

In my view, conroe was only a mere coincidence...

Why anyone (INTEL) having almost all the market, would bother to R&D, spending billions?
Even if the competition was better!?

Good reason to R&D when you own the market:
Create such a good product that no one would buy the competition.

That is the only reason tic-toc exist: Destroy all other cpu makers.

The way I see it, AMD handle it very well, just above 10% of market share...
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Once? Do I need to point out the 2900xt? The 38xx series wasn't much better. Certainly nothing to brag about. Phenom I? To some extent, even, PhII?

You need to remember Netburst was almost 10 years ago. (Actually, over 10 years. It was intro'd in November 20, 2000) These are much more recent failures, especially in tech terms.
The Pentium D was the same price as the Phenom I at one time, that is sad.

Intel hasn't traditionally offered much value for the price/performance. The 2500k is the exception. Normally they give u something for more money that performs worse than AMD. That is a true fact, not fanboyism.

also the 2900xt had nothing to do with AMD...

the 3870 was on par with a 9600gt for cheaper



and it was still an after effect of ATI before AMD came in and released the first real AMD/ATI cards the 4870,4890....
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If amd wanted to make a quadcore with 8 threads that will run 10 times faster than a 2600k, they can. and so can intel.
oh really? AMD can?
thanks for the good laugh troll
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amd payed per good dies for this gen ... making it a per cpu sold basis


if amd can sell out alot of server cpu's they will deffinatly make up for their total R&D ... that cray deal is worth how much ???


add on top the other server sales + desktop sales to wich we wont know until a while ...


how much transistors is on a die is stupid ... it's all about how you use em ... and if amd needed to do their core like this for future use ... then so be it ...


and if amd's schedule of improvement is really on a yearly basis and never skips a beat it is still better then the amd of the past ...


so planning ahead is what they do ... they did mess up with bulldozer .. but in the long run this new architecture does have some strong point
Transistor count is linearly correlated to materials cost for a CPU. Intel's SB-E will almost certainly use less transistors, and sell for ~$600 for a 6-core. Maybe AMD should've made that vaporware CPU(let's just call it Bulldozer) of legend nobody could afford, but would be 10x faster than a 2600k.

FWIW I could care less if AMD makes money on it. It's a poor product from a business perspective unless they really spent THAT little on R&D, that their profit margin is anywhere near Intel's.
 
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