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post #61 of 231
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Originally Posted by noak View Post
The CPU mostly only handles the bandwith netween the GPU and the program, once it is able to handle all of the data, there is no more gain to be made from the CPU assuming it doesn't do much else (like physics)
The CPU does:
  • Physics.
  • Point mapping of objects
  • Interactions between objects
  • Communications between different peripherals (everything has to go through the CPU at some point)
  • Processing inputs (keyboard, mouse, controller)
  • Audio (remember, audio acceleration is disabled as of Windows Vista)
  • Drivers that run components
  • OS functions
  • Background tasks
  • CONTROLS THE GPU



A GPU does:
  • All the pretties (Geometry, Textures, Post-processing visuals, etc.)
  • Tessellation (new tech, will become important in the near future)
  • Physics calculations (in specific applications)
  • GPGPU functions (still requires CPU input to function)




If your CPU sucks, the GPU is useless. Yes, the GPU processes a ton of data for visuals in games, but it still needs a CPU to function.

I'm not trying to downplay how important a GPU is in games, but if you think it doesn't matter how powerful your CPU is, think again. I can still get 60 FPS in a lot of games at lowest settings if the GPU sucks. However, if the CPU sucks, the game will never get 60 FPS until you upgrade the CPU.
Edited by Mad Pistol - 10/13/11 at 5:57pm
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post #62 of 231
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Originally Posted by Vagrant Storm View Post
Yeah, if they want to look ahead they should be developing something on the side and release soemthing else for the now. I know AMD probably doesn't have the R&D to do anything full scale, but they could at elast have something on paper.

On the surface this whole looking ahead thing sounds great...but when the CPU will be able to utilized properly it will be obsolete so it won't really matter. It would like a Q6600 today...I mean, it is decent yet, but no one thinks much of it.
This is my point exactly. There is nothing wrong with looking forwards, but you also need to handle the present. Unfortunately SB and even the Thubans do this better than BD.
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post #63 of 231
AMD can rationalize all they want but but unless there is some miracle software update between now and early January, there is no way I can justify building my new rig with Bulldozer. I've been planning on building for a while and I told myself that I would by whatever CPU performed the best for less than $300 and it's pretty clear that I'll be going with Sandy Bridge. I'm probably too old to be a fanboy but I'll admit to an AMD bias. I haven't owned an Intel CPU in my primary machine since the Pentium II 400 I had in high school. I'm pretty sure that's about to change.
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Fellas...this might not be relevant...buh I wanted to cry and thing when I saw BD's results...no lie...I bet men money it would have out performed at least the 2500k....on top of that, I bought a 990FXA UD7....Well look trouble for me.
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Well at least they do admit that they are pretty short on single-threaded and light load applications. That's something. Better than nothing.
    
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"If you are running lightly threaded apps most of the time, then there are plenty of other solutions out there"

The head of AMD marketing is telling us it's cool to go Intel... well at least not everything in the blog is BS.

"But if you’re like me and use your desktop for high resolution gaming and want to tackle time intensive tasks with newer multi-threaded applications, the AMD FX processor won’t let you down."

Hello? Intel hyperthreaded sandy bridge anyone?

If it wasn't for the sole reason that we need these clowns to get their act together in order to get better competitive pricing and products overall I'd start to think that AMD's slide into irrelevancy in the high end and mainstream is at the point of no return.

Well I do think it just hope I'm wrong somehow.
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Well I do think it just hope I'm wrong somehow.
You are. AMD isn't going anywhere.
    
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It's from a marketing manager, so it must be legit.
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You are. AMD isn't going anywhere.
I said:

I'd start to think that AMD's slide into irrelevancy in the high end and mainstream is at the point of no return.

I am referring to CPUs of course as that's what we are focusing in the thread.

I just don't see how they can effectively compete with intel in the $200 and over segment in the near future so there's no real reason to think they will beyond that either unless Intel wants to take a break and let them catch up enough to be a viable alternative again at the lower end of this price bracket.
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for light-threaded apps, you should look somewhere else
lol yea I'll go with intel because I want to be able to do light and heavy threaded apps on my pc not just encoding videos all day long..
    
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