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he used BF3 because that is what people actually play.....

idk anyone who actually plays Anno 1404 or whatever it's called seriously anymore.
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post #92 of 231
ROFL this AMD focusing in only new games what if gamers wana to play old games (3-5 years old) should we have 2 PC one for new games one for old ? lol why if intel is much better allways was and allways will
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post #93 of 231
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AMD, CPU's don't really matter in BF3 with maxed settings but thanks for trying to fool people into thinking it does. Jagged_Steel posted this right?
IMHO, CPUs stopped mattering a LONG time ago when it came to playing 720p or higher with a GPU.

The difference is blown out of proportion by reviewers that love to benchmark the CPU using low resolution and no GPU.

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he used BF3 because that is what people actually play.....

idk anyone who actually plays Anno 1404 or whatever it's called seriously anymore.
ANYTHING is better than FarCry2.
    
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post #94 of 231
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he used BF3 because that is what people actually play.....

idk anyone who actually plays Anno 1404 or whatever it's called seriously anymore.
But they are using the results of a test that does not test the full performance of ANY of those CPUs to make a statement about their performance. It just doesn't work that way. An analogy I used before is comparing the speed of 2 cars, but you can only go the speed limit. All that can be gathered from those tests is that it can in fact reach the speed limit, or it can in fact run the game without bottlenecking the game more than the GPU. It says nothing of its performance past that.
    
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the one that makes me laugh the most is everyone crying about Civ V benchmarks. what hardcore gamer plays that crap? I'm so over everyone complaining about this chip. if you dont like it DONT BUY IT pretty simple. there are now a dozen threads with the same circle jerk of people going back and forth on how the 2500k and 2600k are better. GREAT buy them. The same arguments back and forth for 200 pages is getting ridiculous. This is a forum, not an arena. Feel free to post your opinions but don't try to push them onto others.
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I guess they do have a point, a lot of software isn't really updated for the new instruction sets that the fx processors use. And these processors don't look too shabby for gaming either. Maybe bulldozer is worth more than was originally thought.
     
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the one that makes me laugh the most is everyone crying about Civ V benchmarks. what hardcore gamer plays that crap? I'm so over everyone complaining about this chip. if you dont like it DONT BUY IT pretty simple. there are now a dozen threads with the same circle jerk of people going back and forth on how the 2500k and 2600k are better. GREAT buy them. The same arguments back and forth for 200 pages is getting ridiculous. This is a forum, not an arena. Feel free to post your opinions but don't try to push them onto others.
You, sir, don't seem to understand how OCN responds. One word describes it best: Hyperbole.
    
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how about giving performance for the apps that matter in the present instead of looking at 5, 10 years into the future?

he says nothing about the terrible single thread performance, and that bit about BF3 - it's just about the only game that worked well.

*Ehem*

Who said anything about 5-10 years into the future? Do you realize that it was ten years ago that the pentium III still reigned? Sub 1000mhz single cores with the most basic feature set, those of which are shamed by todays portable phones?

Based on that logic, in ten years cell phones will ship with 8 thread 3.4Ghz processors, yet you say that AMD or anyone else claims that this new processor will be relevent and only show it's true colors up till then?

And then you mention single threaded performance which is irrellevent to the maximum extent because any application that relies on single thread performance is already so old that it essentially runs in the blink of an eye.

Then, to top it all off, you mention the most processor demanding game in existance and portray it as a scapegoat example...

is anyone else missing the logic here?

Anyway, my stance is that currently this is a pointless processor, but pointless reasons are also....... pointless.

2600k at stock=>50% CPU load in BF3 beta at ultra. so....... no need for improvement in any current application, unless you mention workbench apps and use them as a "only matters in..." situation, in which case you really only support the argument for them.

TLR: i'm drunk but checked in, saw this, ranted against ill-though out troll post.
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post #99 of 231
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I guess they do have a point, a lot of software isn't really updated for the new instruction sets that the fx processors use. And these processors don't look too shabby for gaming either. Maybe bulldozer is worth more than was originally thought.
I agree to a point. BD isn't allowed to flex its muscles much. Over at Xbitlabs, when they disabled one integer core per module, so that they were running without any shared resources, there was a 30-50% increase compared to a 2 full module setup (4 integer, 2 FPU). We don't know if, with OS and program optimizations for BD, it will ever reach that much running with the full modules, but it indicates that there is room for improvement somewhere. A 30% increase would be pretty nice and make it much more attractive. But as it stands RIGHT NOW, it is very underwhelming. If you go buy it tomorrow morning, it will perform just as it has shown to perform, and I cannot recommend it to anyone. We will see if that changes if and only when those changes are made, not before.

For gaming, it has always been fewer, strong cores, as games are slow to adopt more core optimization. Something BD does not have.
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ROFL this AMD focusing in only new games what if gamers wana to play old games (3-5 years old) should we have 2 PC one for new games one for old ? lol why if intel is much better allways was and allways will
P.S. dumbest post I have EVER read on OCN.


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