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My sig rig has recently started crashing during games, basically a lock-up with looping sounds etc. I tested it with furmark and it usually crashes in under 30 seconds. I'll list everything I've tried and ruled out below.

Firstly, I tried testing each card individually. Neither crash after 15min+ of furmark @ 100% load.

-It doesn't appear to be overheating (both cards hover around 80 celcius in furmark).
-I tried different drivers, as well as doing a complete driver sweep + reinstall. (11.9 with recent CAP, 11.10 beta II)
-Disabled ULPS in regedit.
-Tried setting +20% power in CCC.
-Disabled CPU overclock to rule it out.
-Tried switching my crossfire bridge, using two bridges instead of one.
-Something I noticed, one card runs around 10 degrees hotter than the other, even when testing them separately (one card removed completely from mobo). This isn't really a problem when using xfire, as the temperatures even out using this card on the bottom.
-I tested both PCI express slots with just one card installed. Both can run furmark for 15min+.
-Updated P8P67 bios.

So basically I tried everything I can think of, and I'm a bit bewildered that both cards work perfectly when tested separately, considering they crash so quickly in crossfire (during furmark burn-in).

If you know anything else I can try please let me know.
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Try testing a card in the 2nd PCIE2.0 x16 slot. I had the same issue, and that's what it was on my P8P67 Deluxe. I had to RMA it.

Nm, just read that you did that. Not sure, I'm perplexed as well.
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post #3 of 23
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Originally Posted by mkeygmer View Post
My sig rig has recently started crashing during games, basically a lock-up with looping sounds etc. I tested it with furmark and it usually crashes in under 30 seconds. I'll list everything I've tried and ruled out below.

Firstly, I tried testing each card individually. Neither crash after 15min+ of furmark @ 100% load.

-It doesn't appear to be overheating (both cards hover around 80 celcius in furmark).
-I tried different drivers, as well as doing a complete driver sweep + reinstall. (11.9 with recent CAP, 11.10 beta II)
-Disabled ULPS in regedit.
-Tried setting +20% power in CCC.
-Disabled CPU overclock to rule it out.
-Tried switching my crossfire bridge, using two bridges instead of one.
-Something I noticed, one card runs around 10 degrees hotter than the other, even when testing them separately (one card removed completely from mobo). This isn't really a problem when using xfire, as the temperatures even out using this card on the bottom.
-I tested both PCI express slots with just one card installed. Both can run furmark for 15min+.
-Updated P8P67 bios.

So basically I tried everything I can think of, and I'm a bit bewildered that both cards work perfectly when tested separately, considering they crash so quickly in crossfire (during furmark burn-in).

If you know anything else I can try please let me know.
My guess is you are using Afterburner?

Try this:

1. Restore all the OC, CPU, RAM, 6970s back to default.

2. Disable ULPS:
- Go to regedit (start > search programs and files > "regedit")
- In drop down menu > find file > type "enableulps"
- For ALL instances (keep pressing F3) change the "1" value to a "0".
- Restart PC.

3. In Afterburner settings click on "Force Constant Voltage".

4. Use only 1 (one) Crossfire bridge.

5. Force constant fan speed 80% (just to narrow it down, it's not related to temperature).

Give it another try.
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Yea, I'm using afterburner. I will try using force constant voltage once I finish this chkdsk I just started.
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You can skip the checkdisk, from what you decribed, it couldn't be related to it.

Increase the voltage for both cores by 10mV each time you see instability. You shouldn't need to increase more than 30mv without overclock and running at factory OC clocks.

Some games such as Metro 2033 will stress the Core/Memory more than any other games.

Try the above first.
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Tried force constant voltage, start seeing artifacts after around 30 seconds in furmark still. Raised the voltage 10 at a time up to 1.21 (from 1.175 stock), still seeing artifacts at around 30 seconds in. Max temp was 82.
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In CCC Overdrive Power Control Setting +20% > click apply for each GPU.

What clocks for both cards now?
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In CCC Overdrive Power Control Setting +20% > click apply for each GPU.

What clocks for both cards now?
Tried setting power +20% to both cards, clock speeds at 940/1375 (stock for lightning). Still crashing in furmark . I also tried under-clocking them to 900/1200 yesterday and it would still crash.
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post #9 of 23
To rule out driver related issues:

1. Remove Afterburner completely.

2. Remove Catalyst + CAP

3. Clean it with Atiman Uninstaller v.6.0.0.msi. Download LINK

Run it with administrator privilege. Some antivirus software will give a false positive. Let it restarts to complete the uninstallation.

4. Install Catalyst 11.9 + CAP1

Don't install preview driver now.

Edit:

Could you please check the 4 temps in the die and VRegs for each card?

Edit 2:

What are the lanes assigned to each card PCIex16, x8, x4 in GPU-Z?

Remove your sound card then check again the bandwitdth both cards are running at.
Edited by Ken1649 - 10/13/11 at 7:34pm
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Only furmark showing the artifacts?
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