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You'll want to check your load voltage readings from CPU-z... If these voltages are just the motherboard settings then it is possible that the load voltage hasn't changed but the motherboard has degraded so requires a higher set voltage for the same load voltage.

Unfortunately if you don't have past CPU-z voltage readings we won't be able to check that.
Luckily I have CPU-Z voltage readings from back then



Nov. 8 2010. Vcore in BIOS at 1.27ish

Voltage under load = 1.192




Nov. 29 2010. Vcore in BIOS roughly at 1.27ish

Voltage under load = 1.200



Now. Oct 14, 2011. Regarding picture below, Vcore in BIOS is set at 1.28. Note, it is NOT stable at 1.28, I have to push it to 1.31 to get it stable. And even then a few days ago it BSODed (0x101) and needs more Vcore.

Voltage under load = 1.208





Voltage under load keeps increasing from 1.192 to 1.200 to 1.208, what does this mean?

And I don't actually remember the exact BIOS voltage numbers back then so they could have been slightly different, would that have an impact on this reading?
Edited by i7monkey - 10/14/11 at 1:04am
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those voltages are really low i wouldnt worry about it 4ghz on 1.208 is still really good if you start needing like 1.35 or more for 4 ghz i would then maybe lower the clock or get a new cpu.
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those voltages are really low i wouldnt worry about it 4ghz on 1.208 is still really good if you start needing like 1.35 or more for 4 ghz i would then maybe lower the clock or get a new cpu.
It's not working fine when it's at 1.208V under load though (where BIOS Vcore Voltage is at @1.28).

You've made a very interesting obversvation and I have a question. Do I pay more attention to BIOS Voltage or Voltage under load when looking at CPU-Z?

In other words, when you say I should worry about needing 1.35 or more, are you talking about 1.35 in the BIOS or 1.35 in CPUZ when the cpu's under full load?
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You need to worry about what voltage under load it needs to be stable every board has a droop also it could be your board is starting to have worse droop so your needing to raise the volts in bios to keep it high enugh to be stable. If you turn load line on you should see a much closer value to what you put in bios and what you see under load if you dont id say maybe caps are wearing out on the board or vrms. You need to stay under 1.35 in cpuz that you see under load and idle.
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You need to worry about what voltage under load it needs to be stable every board has a droop also it could be your board is starting to have worse droop so your needing to raise the volts in bios to keep it high enugh to be stable. If you turn load line on you should see a much closer value to what you put in bios and what you see under load if you dont id say maybe caps are wearing out on the board or vrms. You need to stay under 1.35 in cpuz that you see under load and idle.
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Look into a new Mobo.
At that vcore it is FAR more likely the power delivery on your motherboard is getting tired than your processor is degrading.
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Has the vdrop/droop increased over time or something? 0.08 vdroop isn't anything alarming.

Do you have LLC on or off?
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I don't trust CPU-z. Bios voltage - 1.340 for stability at 4.5GHz. CPU-z and HWmonitor never read higher than that picture. it's under 100% load folding 24/7
    
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Look into a new Mobo.
At that vcore it is FAR more likely the power delivery on your motherboard is getting tired than your processor is degrading.

If I was to buy a new one I'd probably go all out and get an Asus Rampage III Extreme or something but given that Ivy Bridge is about to be released I might as well buy a new computer and give this one (CPU, mobo, RAM) to my parents or sell it

Know what I mean? X58's nearing the end of it's life so If I'm gonna spend 400-500 for a mobo I might as well get Ivy Bridge.



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Has the vdrop/droop increased over time or something? 0.08 vdroop isn't anything alarming.
I'm not sure. And to be honest, those pictures I showed, I'm not positive about those voltage settings in the BIOS so those pictures could be totally useless and give no valuable information at all.


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Do you have LLC on or off?
I always have LLC off, I'm gonna turn it back on do further testing.
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I have to agree with you about the new MB, X58 is very very close to EOL and you'd be better off hanging out for Ivy or SB-E. Honestly, it seems like it is the MB, 1.2v is extremely low! I had my old i7 950 running at 1.4v for months without an issue!

Of course if the voltage circuity on the motherboard is degrading it is also possible that the monitoring is out of whack as well, or it could even be that the motherboard's voltage monitoring capabilities are losing calibration and thus forcing the voltage you see up. But either way at those voltages I think it has to be the motherboard.

Just keep it for now and see what the future holds!
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