Overclock.net › Forums › Components › Sound Cards and Computer Audio › So I heard my first..
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

So I heard my first..

post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 
24-bit, 96KHz, ~96MB flac, vinyl rip today on low end IEMs. I'm in love.
post #2 of 12
Vinyl is great if you can get pass the subtle popping/crackling.

I prefer blu-ray audio like this:
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Rush-M...Blu-ray/20900/

English: LPCM 5.1 (96kHz, 24-bit)
English: DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 (96kHz, 24-bit)

25GB for 1 album. That's about as good as it gets.
The Leviathan
(20 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 6700k @ 4.7GHz MSI Z170A Gaming M7 12GB NVIDIA Titan X (Pascal) 32GB G.Skill Ripjaws V (DDR4 3200) 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
2x 1TB Samsung 960 PRO 193TB unRAID Server 3x 140mm Noctua NF-A14 Noctua NH-D15 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 10 Pro x64 65" LG 65E6P (4K OLED) Ducky DK9008 Shine 3  Corsair AX860 
CaseMouseAudioAudio
Corsair Obsidian 750D Logitech G502 Proteus Sprectrum Denon X7200WA (Receiver) 2x Klipsch RF-7 (Front Speakers) 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
4x Klipsch RS-62 (Surround Speakers) Klipsch RC-64 (Center Speaker) 4x Klipsch CDT-5800-C II (Atmos Speakers) 2x SVS PB16-Ultra (Subwoofers) 
  hide details  
Reply
The Leviathan
(20 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 6700k @ 4.7GHz MSI Z170A Gaming M7 12GB NVIDIA Titan X (Pascal) 32GB G.Skill Ripjaws V (DDR4 3200) 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
2x 1TB Samsung 960 PRO 193TB unRAID Server 3x 140mm Noctua NF-A14 Noctua NH-D15 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 10 Pro x64 65" LG 65E6P (4K OLED) Ducky DK9008 Shine 3  Corsair AX860 
CaseMouseAudioAudio
Corsair Obsidian 750D Logitech G502 Proteus Sprectrum Denon X7200WA (Receiver) 2x Klipsch RF-7 (Front Speakers) 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
4x Klipsch RS-62 (Surround Speakers) Klipsch RC-64 (Center Speaker) 4x Klipsch CDT-5800-C II (Atmos Speakers) 2x SVS PB16-Ultra (Subwoofers) 
  hide details  
Reply
post #3 of 12
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Murlocke View Post
Vinyl is great if you can get pass the subtle popping/crackling.

I prefer blu-ray audio like this:
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Rush-M...Blu-ray/20900/

English: LPCM 5.1 (96kHz, 24-bit)
English: DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 (96kHz, 24-bit)

25GB for 1 album. That's about as good as it gets.
Ooooooo, thanks. There is a bit of crackling, but barely noticable.

I'm going to ask for a few blu rays for Christmas now. Haha.
post #4 of 12

the sampling and bit depth rate makes no difference. What you are hearing is the a high dynamic range track. It isn't the sampling rate, bit depth rate or media type that matters, it is the production and dynamic range of the track

Enjoy some ~156kbps AAC, 16 bit, 44.1 kHz action (720p up):


Not to mention you must have very good styluses and equipment to rip vinyl properly.
16 bit 44.1kHz has more than enough dynamic range if one choose the ultilise it. The only advantage that vinyl has is that it's not Loudness War'ed / compressed dynamic range. Everything else equal, vinyl is vastly inferior to digital.
I'll upload 'The Verve Pipe - The Freshmen' in HQ quality (from verified lossless) after to Youtube on after work.

24 / 96 is only needed for recording purposes as it gives the bandwidth for post processing such as dithering / noise shaping.
post #5 of 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by chinesekiwi View Post
the sampling and bit depth rate makes no difference. What you are hearing is the a high dynamic range track. It isn't the sampling rate, bit depth rate or media type that matters, it is the production and dynamic range of the track

Enjoy some ~156kbps AAC, 16 bit, 44.1 kHz action (720p up):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi3i-HqDNFI

Not to mention you must have very good styluses and equipment to rip vinyl properly.
16 bit 44.1kHz has more than enough dynamic range if one choose the ultilise it. The only advantage that vinyl has is that it's not Loudness War'ed / compressed dynamic range. Everything else equal, vinyl is vastly inferior to digital.
I'll upload 'The Verve Pipe - The Freshmen' in HQ quality (from verified lossless) after to Youtube on after work.

24 / 96 is only needed for recording purposes as it gives the bandwidth for post processing such as dithering / noise shaping.
@_@

The music.
2nd Gig
(24 items)
 
Sayonara
(20 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Asus M4A79T Deluxe NVIDIA GTX 670 FTW OCZ Platinum 4GB 1600 DDR3 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
OCZ Vertex 2 90GB & Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB Scythe MUGEN-2 Microsoft Windows 8 Professional Dell UltraSharp u2410 & Samsung 2333SW 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G15 OCZ GameXStream 700w HAF 932 Advanced Logitech G300 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Denon AVR-1912 Harman Kardon Infinity Primus P153  HIFIMAN HE-400 Vsonic GR07 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Shure SE-535 Limited Edition Beyerdynamic DT880 ODAC/Objective 2 Amplfiier Audio Technica AD700 
  hide details  
Reply
2nd Gig
(24 items)
 
Sayonara
(20 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Asus M4A79T Deluxe NVIDIA GTX 670 FTW OCZ Platinum 4GB 1600 DDR3 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
OCZ Vertex 2 90GB & Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB Scythe MUGEN-2 Microsoft Windows 8 Professional Dell UltraSharp u2410 & Samsung 2333SW 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G15 OCZ GameXStream 700w HAF 932 Advanced Logitech G300 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Denon AVR-1912 Harman Kardon Infinity Primus P153  HIFIMAN HE-400 Vsonic GR07 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Shure SE-535 Limited Edition Beyerdynamic DT880 ODAC/Objective 2 Amplfiier Audio Technica AD700 
  hide details  
Reply
post #6 of 12
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by chinesekiwi View Post
the sampling and bit depth rate makes no difference. What you are hearing is the a high dynamic range track. It isn't the sampling rate, bit depth rate or media type that matters, it is the production and dynamic range of the track
Hmmm...never knew that. Everything is just so ridiculously clear.

Should I not notice any different between setting my sound card to 16-bit 44.1 and 24-bit 96k then? I notice a bit, not much, difference between the 2 tracks in very fine details.

Quote:
I'll upload 'The Verve Pipe - The Freshmen' in HQ quality (from verified lossless) after to Youtube on after work.
OOooooh, can't wait.

Quote:
24 / 96 is only needed for recording purposes as it gives the bandwidth for post processing such as dithering / noise shaping.
Could it said that under a 24/96 rip that you keep all fidelity of the track? No compression compared to the original source?
post #7 of 12
Doesn't YouTube have a pretty crappy audio setup?
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
2500k ASUS P8P67 WS Revolution 2 x Asus GTX470 900/1800/1700 Corsair Vengence 8gb 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
120gb ssd, 4 x 1TB F3's Raid 0, 2TB F4 Backup Windows 7 Catleap 27 1440p Enermax Revolution 1050w 
Case
Case Labs M8 with pedestal  
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
2500k ASUS P8P67 WS Revolution 2 x Asus GTX470 900/1800/1700 Corsair Vengence 8gb 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
120gb ssd, 4 x 1TB F3's Raid 0, 2TB F4 Backup Windows 7 Catleap 27 1440p Enermax Revolution 1050w 
Case
Case Labs M8 with pedestal  
  hide details  
Reply
post #8 of 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by Domino View Post
Hmmm...never knew that. Everything is just so ridiculously clear.

Should I not notice any different between setting my sound card to 16-bit 44.1 and 24-bit 96k then? I notice a bit, not much, difference between the 2 tracks in very fine details.
depends on the quality / implementation of the software drivers. What I mean is that if everything is the same, including the dynamic range of a track, the way tthe say CD player processes it etc, here will be no difference for music playback.

See here (Conclusions):

http://www.audioholics.com/education...-part-5-page-5

Quote:
Originally Posted by Domino View Post
Could it said that under a 24/96 rip that you keep all fidelity of the track? No compression compared to the original source?
No, as in layman's terms, 44.1kHz can be reconstructed into a max 22050Hz signal and human hearing is at max 22000Hz.
post #9 of 12
Thread Starter 
okay. that clears it all up for me. would searching for dynamic range rips be the way to go then? how would you know if it was ripped as dyanmic range?

thanks.. really appreciate it.
post #10 of 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by Domino View Post
okay. that clears it all up for me. would searching for dynamic range rips be the way to go then? how would you know if it was ripped as dyanmic range?

thanks.. really appreciate it.
'Dynamic range' isn't like a brand. Dynamic range is basically in layman's terms that the volume difference between the quietest and highest notes is high.

However good remaster brands such as DCC and MFSL (Mobile Fidelity Sound Labs) will have decent dynamic range. A lot of mainstream albums post 1998 would of suffered the Loudness War treatment (i.e. compressed dynamic range). There are a few exceptions (Such as Franz Ferdinand's self titled album) but they really are exceptions.

Your human senses of sight and hearing crave dynamic range.

Anyway vid not uploading properly on Youtube :/

Will try later.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Sound Cards and Computer Audio
Overclock.net › Forums › Components › Sound Cards and Computer Audio › So I heard my first..