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post #31 of 55
I wouldn't base my decisions on Eric Savitz for 4 reasons:

a) he's basing his article on one move by one financial analyst
b) he's a writer who gets hired/retained based on his content being read a lot
c) FX8150 sold out on NewEgg within 1 day. I'm sure they didn't just stock 100 of them.
d) there are a lot of stories out now about performance concerns with the motherboards/BIOSes

I'm gonna hold judgement on AMD for right now, and in particular the initial performance of Bulldozer on the whole. I thought it would do better across the board, but there are possibly other reasons other than being completely based on poor design.

Hence, I wouldn't go jumping to any conclusion that AMD's relevancy in desktop computing, or the processor market on the whole, will vanish.
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I love how people always assume a company will tank because of a bad product sure people are jumping off the amd ship but most of them are enthusiasts and quite bluntly we dont count for a whole hell of a lot.

Enthusiast grade cpus have never really been amds thing they have made almost all there money off of the mid range cpus and laptops chips which were and continue to be a huge success with the release of lano
post #33 of 55
Yeah, they're going to pull out of the market because current software doesn't run well on their latest architecture design, like Intel did after the Pentium 4 flopped when it was first introduced.

Oh, they didn't pull out of the market because of that? You're telling me they went back to the drawing board and fixed the problems?

Well, then that is what I suspect AMD will do, too. Which, come to think of it, is what they did when the original Phenom was a flop. They worked on it, and came up with a winner in the Phenom II, even if it wasn't quite up to the best Intel offering.
     
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post #34 of 55
No someone will buy the darned BD even if it sucks so they will be around for a while
post #35 of 55
AMD is now known for their "budget build" CPUs that are completely functional for what most of the tech population uses them for. I wasn't expecting that much from Bulldozer anyway...

Who actually needs an i7 2600K for gaming and homework? Am I wrong to assume that most of us here will never come close to using Intel CPUs to their full potential (not including benchmarking)?

I think AMD may have screwed up on marketing their Bulldozer CPU and nothing else. They blew it way out of proportion to get everyone hyped about the "new AMD octa-core" when they had to have known it wouldn't come close to the 2600K.

They took a great approach in the past while marketing the early x4 Phenom IIs and are still going to make great, low budget, low heat CPUs for people like me who love to game, OC, and watch movies. Why is there this ambiguous notion that AMD HAS to compete with Intel? Am I missing something?

So, no... I don't believe that AMD will lie down and give up because of one bad marketing move. I will continue to buy AMD.

Don't get me wrong. There needs to be competition to fuel the ever evolving computer world. But I don't necessarily think that's AMD's goal.
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Originally Posted by bajer29 View Post
AMD is now known for their "budget build" CPUs that are completely functional for what most of the tech population uses them for. I wasn't expecting that much from Bulldozer anyway...

Who actually needs an i7 2600K for gaming and homework? Am I wrong to assume that most of us here will never come close to using Intel CPUs to their full potential (not including benchmarking)?

I think AMD may have screwed up on marketing their Bulldozer CPU and nothing else. They blew it way out of proportion to get everyone hyped about the "new AMD octa-core" when they had to have known it wouldn't come close to the 2600K.

They took a great approach in the past while marketing the early x4 Phenom IIs and are still going to make great, low budget, low heat CPUs for people like me who love to game, OC, and watch movies. Why is there this ambiguous notion that AMD HAS to compete with Intel? Am I missing something?

So, no... I don't believe that AMD will lie down and give up because of one bad marketing move. I will continue to buy AMD.

Don't get me wrong. There needs to be competition to fuel the ever evolving computer world. But I don't necessarily think that's AMD's goal.
^agreed
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^agreed
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post #38 of 55
Bulldozer is cheap as crap right now. It's still worth it to some people. Personally I plan on keeping my Q6600 for a while longer now and upgrading when Ivy Bridge comes out or when Sandy gets a price drop.
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post #39 of 55
Their technology has gone backwards in three years.

Deneb > Thuban > Bulldozer. The only thing that has been going up on these new processors are their prices. Its ridiculous. I'm tired of them.
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Their technology has gone backwards in three years.

Deneb > Thuban > Bulldozer. The only thing that has been going up on these new processors are their prices. Its ridiculous. I'm tired of them.
I would have to disagree with this statement though as Thuban actually is better than Deneb in most categories. So here is how I would correct you

Deneb < Thuban > Bulldozer. Not trying to be a jerk but Thuban has done a good job.
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