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Originally Posted by Narzon View Post
Alright, we get it. Video games are serious business to you and everyone else is an idiot. You have an incredible superiority complex. Fun and personal enjoyment should take a backseat to 1337 skill. It's just as comfortable to sit in an office chair with your arms on a desk, as it is to recline in a leather seat with a small controller in your hands.
You have an inferiority complex.

Gaming is art. People think its finger painting. I'm here to change that.

How you can enjoy spending a large chunk of your time doing something and remain horrible at it is a mystery to me, but thats most people. They want ez, they want now, they want shiny lights to flash and tell them they achieved something. I enjoy bettering myself and if I cant get good at something I dont even bother doing it at all. Why would I want to be mediocre or bad in anything I do? Its fun to get better and improve. When you get in that flow and you are a master of your environment, there is no better feeling the world. If you don't experience flow you are missing out on possibly the best human experience there is.

We do not intend on improving.

I just got the first article I could find in google lol
http://www.womensmedia.com/grow/211-...-its-best.html

Researchers describe flow as a unique state of concentration in which action seems to be effortless. Whether painting, writing, planning, scheming, inventing, or running a 10K, you feel alert, unselfconscious and totally absorbed in the present moment. Flow is a state entered when you are performing at your peak or stretching beyond former limits. Emotions are positive and energized, yet your attention is so focused on the task at hand that you may not be aware of feelings at all except in retrospect. Everything but the task is forgotten—time, surroundings, even yourself. Awareness and action become one.

Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi, a psychologist who has studied and written about flow, compares it to what sports psychologists call reaching the "zone," a state of transcendent absorption that seems to push champion athletes beyond former limits. The primary difference between flow and the zone is motivation. The point of reaching the zone is to win. Achieving flow is usually an end in itself.

Daniel Goleman (Emotional Intelligence: Why It Can Matter More Than IQ) suggests that flow is "emotional intelligence at its best." Not only are feelings incredibly positive (rapture, spontaneous joy), all of the usual emotional static is absent. In flow, senses, feelings, actions, and thoughts are perfectly attuned and you respond to feedback from the task or activity itself. The painter communes with the painting, the writer "becomes" her heroine, the architect moves about inside the building on her drawing board, the rock climber is part of the mountain.
post #52 of 120
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Originally Posted by BeerPowered View Post
The combat is paused, you switch to your healer and hit triangle to heal.

There isn't very many activated abilities you need, 6 buttons is plenty, most are sustained and have no reason to be bound. The radial menu is super easy and quick to use anyways. Plus there is a tactics menu.

I would go onto say the Auto Targeting gives the console version an edge seeing as you don't have to pause and click attack every time an enemy dies.


Either way it is accomplished the same. Whether you like it or hate it makes no difference, it can be done.
I didn't say the same combat isn't possible, I said it was quicker, more convenient, and therefore gave an advantage over controllers. I don't care how "easy" the radial menu is, it's still not as easy as hitting a button on your keyboard. Six buttons may be plenty for you, but there are lot more than 6 abilities, and even then with those six buttons you're not counting a modifier, which you can do with a keyboard anyways. You could also play an FPS the exact same way on a controller compared to a mouse, it's just slower, and less precise. By your logic, no game has an advantage on keyboards, since you can accomplish the same goals with radial menus.
post #53 of 120
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Originally Posted by MR KROGOTH View Post
Good thing you placed "some" in the right spot of your title.
Now end your superiority complex over console gamers.

You are both gamers.
You are both entitled to your own opinions.
You have no place to insult his opinions.
Remember that.
That would all be correct, except for one glaring problem...throw cost out the window, and the PC is easily the better platform. Better graphics quality, better performance, better controls, better game depth, better modding.

Face it, aside from consoles being cheaper, they're only good for the game developers/publishers.
post #54 of 120
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Originally Posted by Ploppytheman View Post
You have an inferiority complex.

Gaming is art. People think its finger painting. I'm here to change that.

How you can enjoy spending a large chunk of your time doing something and remain horrible at it is a mystery to me, but thats most people. They want ez, they want now, they want shiny lights to flash and tell them they achieved something. I enjoy bettering myself and if I cant get good at something I dont even bother doing it at all. Why would I want to be mediocre or bad in anything I do? Its fun to get better and improve. When you get in that flow and you are a master of your environment, there is no better feeling the world. If you don't experience flow you are missing out on possibly the best human experience there is.

We do not intend on improving.
First off, I don't think you know what an inferiority complex is; I never said I felt I was worse than you. You clearly think you're better than me, though I can assure you the feeling is not mutual.

I never said I was horrible at games, I'm quite good. Being good =/= wanting to be an artist/athlete. I'm good at games. At games. Games. As in gaming.
As in, I couldn't care less if other people crowded around me and admired how good I was. I couldn't care less what social stigmas say about what I do. Your entire post is completely irrelevant to your argument. No one is saying "LET US BE BAD! WE WANT TO BE BAD", though that's a personal choice in itself and there's nothing wrong with it. Your massive ego tells you that everyone should shift their own motivation to fit yours. Your massive ego tells you that casual gamers are lesser people and should either start entering e-sports competitions or else throw away their consoles. Your fear of what society thinks makes you ashamed to be considered a "gamer"; you feel you deserve to be winning awards and getting on TV.

tl;dr you're arrogant and selfish.


EDIT: I have to requote and stress this:
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People think its finger painting.
Why do you care what people think?
Edited by Narzon - 10/14/11 at 7:00am
post #55 of 120
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Originally Posted by Quasimojo View Post
Face it, aside from consoles being cheaper, they're only good for the game developers/publishers.
Yep. And? Being cheaper is quite an important factor, extremely important for a large part of the gaming population (which, whether or not you might like it, is consisted of a lot of younger men and women who don't have their own income).
post #56 of 120
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Originally Posted by PhishTaco View Post
Its not really an insult, i just cant see how he thinks that making aiming less accurate can make the game better??!
Question: Are you purposefully trying to take what he said WAYYYY out of context?

The quote is "controllers take more skill than keyboard and mouse. with a mouse it's easy as f* to aim"

I don't see any mention of the word GAME or BETTER in here. He's saying it's harder to aim with a controller then with a mouse. Pretty straight forward. It has nothing to do with a game being BETTER or WORSE.

Now stop posting garbage threads.
 
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I don't mean to make myself sound ignorant; BUT

Having played both, console and PC games competitively (with some success,) PC gaming is much harder than console gaming.

The tactics and strategies involved with PC gaming (FPS mainly) is so in-depth that the average console gamer can't comprehend why they're losing or how to fix it.

As for controls, it is harder to headshot people with a controller, yes. But it's much easier to get headshotted in PC gaming, which makes it much more fast-paced and a lot more difficult.
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The tactics and strategies involved with PC gaming (FPS mainly) is so in-depth that the average console gamer can't comprehend why they're losing or how to fix it.
I'd like to see which survey you look to do decide what the average console gamer can or cannot comprehend. I can assure you, games like Halo take just as much strategy and tactics as any PC game. As much individual skill? Perhaps not. You may not see strategy/tactics in a social big team game, but as soon as you start getting in higher-division play it becomes apparent you cannot win without planning and communication.

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As for controls, it is harder to headshot people with a controller, yes. But it's much easier to get headshotted in PC gaming, which makes it much more fast-paced and a lot more difficult.
How did you come to the conclusion that
easier to get killed
is more difficult than
harder to kill
?

That kind of analysis never works. It's easy to get killed in Call of Duty, and that's one of the easiest multiplayer shooters out there. It's also easy to get killed in CS, and that's one of the most difficult multiplayer shooters out there.
Edited by Narzon - 10/14/11 at 7:08am
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Controllers have Aim assist since it is virtually impossible to aim with them, so it is still easier to aim with a controller after you are assisted by software that aims for you.

Aiming with a mouse does not require aim assist because it is inherently "easy."

Therefore; this whole thread is a crap.
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Calling him stupid isn't an insult?


I personally am better with a controller than I have ever been on a mouse and keyboard. I like them more.
What are you going to do?
Call me stupid?
Not stupid.......wrong

jk,everyone has their own styles of play and opinions. I used to rock the controller and now even if the sensitivity is at max i still cant aim, but on KBM im amazing. Its all about how you prefer to play, no right or wrong (unless you say consoles > PC, then youre wrong )
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