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Originally Posted by Narzon View Post
OK, in what game? With auto aim or without? This theoretical scenario is still worthless until someone can define some specifics.
I don't know what the poster you quoted had in mind but for me if I were to take part in this Nonsense, it would be the console with everything it has now like auto aim and whatever else. verses a PC with all of its abilities and without auto aim.
As for the game, I'll say COD since that is one of the biggest titles for the console and some people will go as far as to say it is best on a console.

But either way its pretty pointless.
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Originally Posted by Banegio View Post
Fun and skills are main parts of gaming. Now is using controller more fun? Well thats subjective
If someone finds using a control pad easier, or more comfortable, than using a keyboard and mouse then yes, using a control pad would be more fun for that person.

At the end of the day, does it really matter to you or anyone else what someone else uses? What's the point in ridiculing someone over their control choice? That's like me ridiculing someone for using a control pad for a racing game over a racing wheel. Or a control pad over a fight stick on Street Fighter. Sure the racing wheel, or fight stick, is better but the guy's entitled to make his own choice. If he's happy and comfortable playing that way, he's going to be more of a challenge than using a control method he's not happy or comfortable with using.

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Originally Posted by edalbkrad View Post
Im confident that any decent pc gamer can wipe the floor with the best console fps gamers.
I'm confident that "wiping the floor" with the best of them wouldn't happen. There's more to a game than just aiming and pulling a trigger, and the very best console gamers can aim insanely godlike with a control pad, probably better than your average mouse user. Just because someone uses a mouse that doesn't automatically make them a great player. There's many more things that attribute to that than a periphiral alone.

**** I used to play Global Agenda PvP (among other games) with a control pad and did just fine. Regularly getting decent scores for my class. I attribute that to learning what my limits were and how I could get around them, and I managed it. I'm not even a great player (with any periphiral) yet I still managed to get up there being what some people would deem "disabled" or "special". Well, if I manage to kill you guys then what does that make you?

In any event the only games this even makes the remotest bit of difference to is FPS, and RTS (and even console gamers hate using control pads in RTS, though Halo Wars at least did a good job of creating a fun RTS suited for a console), and there's more to gaming than either of those two genres.

PC elitists need to worry less about what control devices other people are using to enjoy their games and focus more on enjoying their own.
Edited by Lifeshield - 10/14/11 at 9:07am
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Originally Posted by MR KROGOTH View Post
Good thing you placed "some" in the right spot of your title.
Now end your superiority complex over console gamers.

You are both gamers.
You are both entitled to your own opinions.
You have no place to insult his opinions.
Remember that.
lol calm down.
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post #94 of 120
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Originally Posted by SGT. Peppers View Post
It all boils down to preference.
Exactly most games I use KBM, but sometimes I don't want to sit in a chair. I want to lay down in my bed propped up and use a controller. Plus most games nowadays are console games ported to PC, so the game is better suited for the controller.
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Originally Posted by Narzon View Post
First off, I don't think you know what an inferiority complex is; I never said I felt I was worse than you. You clearly think you're better than me, though I can assure you the feeling is not mutual.

I never said I was horrible at games, I'm quite good. Being good =/= wanting to be an artist/athlete. I'm good at games. At games. Games. As in gaming.
As in, I couldn't care less if other people crowded around me and admired how good I was. I couldn't care less what social stigmas say about what I do. Your entire post is completely irrelevant to your argument. No one is saying "LET US BE BAD! WE WANT TO BE BAD", though that's a personal choice in itself and there's nothing wrong with it. Your massive ego tells you that everyone should shift their own motivation to fit yours. Your massive ego tells you that casual gamers are lesser people and should either start entering e-sports competitions or else throw away their consoles. Your fear of what society thinks makes you ashamed to be considered a "gamer"; you feel you deserve to be winning awards and getting on TV.

tl;dr you're arrogant and selfish.


EDIT: I have to requote and stress this:


Why do you care what people think?
I was mocking you.

So because I want gaming to become accepted and be a sport I have a massive ego. What did you watch an episode of House and now you think ur a genius and can read people? Get over yourself. Your obviously extremely insecure and make random comments.

And I dont care what people think at all, because then I'd be weak minded like you. However I do care about the consequences of what people think which I why I am so adamant about making games into actual art/sport and not just a "game" like you said. I want them to be sports. I don't want being a gamer being associated with people who play WoW and are immature idiots feeding their e-peen with achievements and easy games.

Your obviously too selfish to allow there to be a pro scene because in sports there is pro and casual and all inbetwen. The difference is since you cant you dont want anyone else to. Thats selfish. I want my easy games with achievements and generic simple mechanics and grinding. No one can play competition because my ego cant handle losing.

And I dont think I deserve anything unless I earn it by my skill and hard work. Just like in sports or w/e else if you work hard and dedicate yourself you should be rewarded. I am happy when I see others win in tournaments and I am so happy that gaming is becoming a sport and that people are starting to not look down on all gamers and are able to seperate casual/consoletards/MMO players from pro players and skill based games. It would be like lumping chess in with hungry hungry hippo.

Maybe competitive gaming should rename itself completely, I mean its called E-sports already but there needs to be a distinction between dirty console gaming peasants and people who play competitive skill based games that require the dedication and skill of a real sport.

I look to S Korea and see people playing 12hrs a day or more. They hone their craft every day putting in tons of hours. They put their blood and sweat into the game for meager pay and live in relatively small apartments. They are awesome and far from selfish. I wish I was that dedicated. I wish in the USA people saw progamers as athletes like they do in S Korea. Having events in stadiums with fireworks. That is awesome, that is what gaming should be.
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See that's you're problem. You are always trying to prove a skill. I don't need to prove my skills to anyone. I know what my skills are. I could careless if other people think I suck. So what? As long as I can enjoy my self why should you care whether I am playing this way or that way? Is my playing with a controller affecting your ability to use a m/kb? Nope. I don't care if I'm challenged or not. I played gears of war on thee easiest setting when it came out. Why? Because I was more focused on the store than my ability to kill something on insane and repeating a section over and over for a non-existent achievement to say i spent time trying to prove I can do something on the hardest difficulty. Now that I know the story I don't mind playing on hardest but I rather enjoy the game for what it is then force my self into a position that will frustrate me and make me not want to play the game.

As for comfort, it doesn't matter how i sit or place my keyboard. I still get a strain in my forearm after about an hour of play. I never experience this problem when typing or doing regular internet surfing. But as soon as I start playing movement and click intensive games like batlefield then I develop cramps. I grew up with a controller in my hand starting in 1991. I played PC games growing up (now 22), but didn't get seriously into pc gaming till around mech warrior 4 and then slouched after that till about 4-5 years ago when I built my current rig.

Because I don't have the same views as you doesn't make me wrong. When I see someone flip out over games similar to the angry German kid video or start fiending for games then I feel sad for gamers. And if you feel the need to be competitive then go join MLG or something. But don't force me to change the way I want to play. I don't dictate how you play you don't dictate how I play. If i want to play with a controller in between my ass cheeks, then let me. It's an easier kill for you. It's more fun for me.
Hey you figured out 99% of single player games take zero skill and are a waste of time.

Something is wrong with your posture or you have a physical anomaly or older injury. A normal healthy adult male should have zero strain playing PC as is evidenced by a billion skinny nerds who can play it.

Im not forcing you to do anything but people need to be exposed to E-sports and understand the idea of E-athletes and how important it is for gamers in general. How would you like it if the thing you enjoyed most was being held back and/or destroyed by a bunch of feeble-minded dolts who don't even care they are destroying it?

If you actually cared at all about games you would understand this. No one cares that you are bad or play single player, but it matters that the image of gamers is very negative in general and even people who game don't understand it.
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Some console gamers like less accurate controls?
Yep, and my friend told me console gamers also rub hamburgers of their faces and wear paper underpants
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I wish someone would make a set-up that shot what you looked at, or had a touch screen where it just shot bullets at everything you touched on the screen. I mean, the more accurate you can get with it, the better, right? That's whats important, not having a fairness or balance to the game, but being as accurate as possible, right? When those inputs come into existence, I wonder what the mouse and keyboard people will be saying.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a console fanatic, I love my PC, but I love my consoles as well. I am equally as competitive on any platform. I recognize that the mouse and keyboard are more accurate, but that isn't why I love PC gaming. I would love PC gaming just as much if everyone played on a controller.
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I used to hate on console gamers, until I started playing MW on the xbox 360. The controller is so much better than KB+M for my gameplay style. The tracking is much more linear because you don't have the weight and friction of the mouse, and its easier to not hit wrong keys by accident. Also, I like the fact that I can scan 360 degrees easily without having to make my sensitivity over 9000.
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Regardless of what anyone thinks of it, MLG is a pretty established E-sport organization, which has been televised, with some very dedicated players from across multiple platforms, mostly console (but including PC). I'm not talking the little whiny teenagers who run their mouth off, screaming MLG at every corner in Call of Duty, I'm talking high scale competitive gaming. If you're really into the competitive scene then you should already know this though.

Don't even get me started on fighting game circuits (EVO), or PES/FIFA tournament players (try playing that with keyboard and mouse, haha) aswell. They have some insanely dedicated players.

These people are pretty dedicated to what they do, if they weren't they wouldn't be pro gamers earning money from what they do via winnings and sponsorships.

Please don't act like PC is, or even should be, the be all and end all of competitive gaming over one crowd seemingly being more dedicated than another. It's probably the most ignorant statement about competitive gaming one can make.
Edited by Lifeshield - 10/14/11 at 10:19am
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