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well then I guess that's out of the question. Still though, what about this whole lower second card thing? Will it communicate with the Quadro, or will I have to go through a whole process in order to even get to the monitor enabled by that second card?
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well then I guess that's out of the question. Still though, what about this whole lower second card thing? Will it communicate with the Quadro, or will I have to go through a whole process in order to even get to the monitor enabled by that second card?
It isn't out of the question at all.

This guy apparently did it: http://www.overclock.net/intel-build...gb-13-ssd.html

Just because nvidia is trying to make it impossible doesn't mean it's impossible.
    
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JESUS CHRIST WHAT DOES THAT KID THINK HE'S DOING?!??!

I don't even know what to say about that. Except that what you're basically suggesting is that I risk hacking a driver for a gaming graphics card, even though the drivers might eventually crap on me and I'd be stuck without the render and compressor bonuses

I feel like I'm back to square one.

If I did get a Quadro 4000, what would the second card be? I'm thinking GTX 470 but, I don't know what to think anymore really. Your link kinda threw me off hard lol
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I called NVIDIA. The guy I spoke to said, if I really want 3 monitors so badly, skip the Quadro and just get a GTX 590. He says the power it'll provide will override the need for Quadro drivers.

but for some reason he denounced using a 580..... saying it won't support three monitors? huh? that's gotta be bull....
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but for some reason he denounced using a 580..... saying it won't support three monitors? huh? that's gotta be bull....
That's not bull. All Fermi cards, GeForce or Quadro, only support a maximum of 2 independent displays.
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so he was lying when he said that the 590 would display three monitors?
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my program is Adobe Premier Pro CS5...what I learned about Quadro cards (please correct me if I am misinformed) is something along the lines of, Quadro's have drivers you can install that are designed specifically to boost the performance of programs such as Adobe Premier Pro CS5.
A little benchmarking:

"The hardware-accelerated configurations are more than 20 times faster than rendering in software. No surprise there. The question is: should you spend the extra money on a $500 graphics card to help improve your experience with Adobe’s Mercury Playback Engine? Probably not. Even our baseline GeForce GTS 450 finished this effects-laden project in 1:35. And while the GTX 580 shaves off four seconds from the 480’s time, such high-end hardware is only really worth it if gaming is your first priority. Otherwise, a more mainstream (supported) GPU would be plenty."


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If CS5 is your main concern then there is no reason to get a quadro card. I can't tell any difference between the machines I use CS5 on, one has a GTS 450, one has a GTX 570 (mine) and one has a Quadro4000. For premiere just get a minimum of 1gb of GDDR5 cuda card and you will be fine.

For your third monitor you don't have sli, just another nvidia card with the monitor output of your preference. I have an old nvidia 8600 matched with the GTS 450 in the only machine I use with more than 2 monitors.

You will notice a difference with processor and memory though, get as many cores (hyperthreading is great in CS5) as you can afford and as much memory as you can fit. You will also want to make sure you have 3 decently fast hard drives, one for your software and OS, one for editing content and one for rendering.
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If CS5 is your main concern then there is no reason to get a quadro card. I can't tell any difference between the machines I use CS5 on, one has a GTS 450, one has a GTX 570 (mine) and one has a Quadro4000. For premiere just get a minimum of 1gb of GDDR5 cuda card and you will be fine.

For your third monitor you don't have sli, just another nvidia card with the monitor output of your preference. I have an old nvidia 8600 matched with the GTS 450 in the only machine I use with more than 2 monitors.

You will notice a difference with processor and memory though, get as many cores (hyperthreading is great in CS5) as you can afford and as much memory as you can fit. You will also want to make sure you have 3 decently fast hard drives, one for your software and OS, one for editing content and one for rendering.
interesting..... i finally came to the conclusion of buying a Quadro4000 and adding this kick-ass GTS 450:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814162063

specs are incredible, and only 100 bucks! if anything it's definitely gonna be my first purchase before any of the bigger cards to get this thing started.

but you're telling me, in your own personal experience.... Quadro never made much of a difference performance-wise? Have you downloaded the drivers?

I'm pretty bent on the GTS 450 honestly, I think it's a wonderful card and I'm probably definitely keeping it. So if the Quadro is unnecessary like you're saying.... I might as well get the 580, it's cheaper anyways. Again, back to square one on that subject, what should my main card be? (GTS 450 for the third monitor is out of the question though, that stays where it is )

I think I have processor and memory down pretty well, I'm getting a core-i7 hexacore with 3.33GHz, done deal. as for RAM, at first I was gonna shoot for a triple set of 4GB 1600 Snipers timed at 7-8-7-24, $190.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231465
But then I realized my motherboard can handle all the way up to 2133, so I did some math and found that 6x2GB 2133 Ripjaws timed at 9-11-9-28 only costs $165.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231449
So that made me think; which will promise me better performance? Cas Latency, or MHz? Also, most of these high-MHz RAM sets come with fans, these ones don't. Is it smarter to get a fan for this kind of RAM? Do they heat up really badly? The case is a Storm Scout so I imagine the air flow will be acceptable, but I've never even looked at this kind of RAM before in my life, I don't know what it does.

Hard drives?
One 90GB Corsair Force SSD for the OS and all of my software and programs
one OR two WD 450GB VelociRaptors @ 10k RPM
one OR two 500GB Barracuda's @ 7200RPM
and one 2TB Hitachi @ 7200 RPM for backing up the doubles, and for the rest of my personal crap (pictures, music, etc).
I wanted to RAID 0 the two VelociRaptors together for editing, and then do regular backups onto the Hitachi in case my RAID's ever decide to ruin me. Then I could use the Barracuda specifically for Linux, want to experiment it to death. I actually already have one Barracuda, it was an impulse buy that I'm sorta regretting, Seagate drives like to DOA and I have no way of knowing if it is or isn't yet (can't put it into my current PC, the process is way too complicated and risky). But then Newegg pulled something on me. One Velociraptor per customer. LAME! So now I have to consider a work-around. I don't want to use 10k RPM just for screwing with Linux, that seems like a waste. So I thought I might just use it to store my music/pictures/etc, access all of it faster. I can get a second Barracuda to RAID with the one I already have, and then use the 1000 gigs available on the Hitachi for backing them up. Then I can just partition 500GB of the Hitachi and use THAT to screw around with Linux.
and.... yeah, those are my two options. Either find a work-around for the VelociRaptors (buy them in a store maybe?) and get super RAID+10k speeds, or go the complicated route with partitions and less promise from the RAIDed drives. I'm still working that out in my head. I've got 5 bays for internal hard drives, and I believe that to be it. I haven't actually taken out the Storm Scout to look at it, because I want it to be fresh by the time I'm actually building this beast.

(not to be prejudice against all the help I've gotten from you guys so far, but bigjdubb, your post was somewhat striking, I don't know why, but I'm giving you a rep for your help ill look around for other posts that struck thoughts in my brain and give them reps as well)
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