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The 2600k will ALWAYS lose hands down in encoding, even an OC'd 2600k to a stock 990x, it just doesn't have the lanes to handle it.


$1,049.99: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115079
$314.99: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...5070&Tpk=2600k

Think about that for a second...
post #52 of 84
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Masked, enjoy your REP, you've earned it.

I'll get to work on that LGA 1155.
post #53 of 84
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I'm absolutely not disagreeing with the price difference but, if encoding a movie...Do you have any idea how much longer it actually takes?

15-20 minutes...That may not seem like a lot to you...To some people 20 minutes isn't but, in the world of media 20 minutes is a whole lot of money.

So for those that seriously encode, I absolutely endorse the use of the 990x.

If you're on a budget and encoding, I absolutely endorse the use of the 2600k.

What you get COMPLETELY depends on your degree of professionalism within this industry...BUT, the 990x and the 980x are the kings and will be until Ivy comes out...I'd mention another chip but, it will be a week or two before I can talk about it.
post #54 of 84
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I'm absolutely not disagreeing with the price difference but, if encoding a movie...Do you have any idea how much longer it actually takes?
You completely avoided addressing the benchmark, which shows your original statement that I quoted to be nothing more than pure imagination (in Adobe Premier Pro CS5, which the OP is using)...
Edited by jlells01 - 10/20/11 at 6:56am
post #55 of 84
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Quick question, what the hell is the difference between the 2600 and the 2600k? I just compared the two, and the only difference I found was the K. And $15. Is there an existing reason as to why people would choose the 2600k over the 2600?
post #56 of 84
Agree with em. 990x/980x & a Quadro. You can call up Nvidia and see if the Quadro card you are looking at supports the apps you are using, as the cards are purely optimised for certain apps. Though the 980x and 990x eats a ton of electricity, so I might wait for IB to come out, if you aint much of a hurry and get a i7 2600k and a p67 board, so you can just dump a IB CPU in when it comes out with a Bios Flash (not sure if the UEFI Bios issue has been nuanced)

The 2600k definitely, OC it and get a huge increase in performance. 2600 has basically a limited 2600k and is harder to OC and limited as well.
    
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You completely avoided addressing the benchmark, which shows your original statement that I quoted to be nothing more than pure imagination (in Adobe Premier Pro CS5, which the OP is using)...
Do you actually understand the chart you linked?

The I7 990x at 4.6ghz encoded in CS5 @150 seconds, the 2600k at 4.7ghz took 165 or, 15 seconds/min LONGER.

Thus why the chart says, less is better...It would be a benefit to you, to actually read/observe what you post in the future because what I said was absolutely correct.

If I'm at work, 15 seconds per rendering compounded into a day comes to about 30 minutes...I do enjoy my lunch, FYI.

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Quick question, what the hell is the difference between the 2600 and the 2600k? I just compared the two, and the only difference I found was the K. And $15. Is there an existing reason as to why people would choose the 2600k over the 2600?
Overclocking...The 2600 is locked, the 2600k is unlocked.
Edited by Masked - 10/20/11 at 7:24am
post #58 of 84
Good read on nVidia and Premiere Creative Suite 5, 5.5
http://www.studio1productions.com/Ar...remiereCS5.htm
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Thus why the chart says, less is better...It would be a benefit to you, to actually read/observe what you post in the future because what I said was absolutely correct.
Your original statement that I quoted:

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The 2600k will ALWAYS lose hands down in encoding, even an OC'd 2600k to a stock 990x, it just doesn't have the lanes to handle it.
An OC'd 2600k does it in 165 seconds; a stock 990x does it in 188 seconds.

That little tidbit of benchmark data there proves you're patently wrong in making such a statement that, as I've shown, is absolutely incorrect. (in CS5)

Ugh; reminds me of a post I came across earlier:

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I remember when you could log onto OCN and start a thread and get good solid answers. Not BS and misinformation. Which is all I see in this thread.
Those of us here seeking those solid answers will await your apology, Masked.
Edited by jlells01 - 10/20/11 at 7:28am
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You know, the quadro cards aren't actually physically any more powerful than nvidias other high end offerings [for the most part], they just have specialized drivers.

you can hack quadro drivers onto a gtx 580 and get the same performance as a quadro card which costs a ton more than it.
Please do not do this !!!! it does not work. The quadros are specialized for 3d rendering ect. now i know i'm in a different field but the geforce performance in autodesk products 3ds max and the like is absolutly awful and unworkable.

When we were building our work machines we fell into this trap/ myth.
Anyway after a lot of emails and support calls with Nvidia and Autodesk they basically told us Geforce Will work with profesional tools but will not provide the optimal experiance. Trust me thats an understatement if there ever was one.

For example viewport fps in the new 3dsmax 2012 latest geforce drivers on GTX480's 3.4 fps. so installed quaddro drivers 3fps........

Anyway in the end we bought quaddros ( and i got a pair of 480's on the cheap )and wow there is so much difference between these products. i am sat here with ~1 million polygons on screen close to 200fps.

The Quaddros are expensive and there is a reason for it because they are professional products.

Anyone feels like testing go download 3ds max 2012 trial and take a look, draw a simple poly and add a few particle sources then scroll the timeline now thats a slide show.

The story is the same i'm told with our graphics guys who work in Adobe CS5 all day, they also swear by the quaddros.

Now i can't comment on ATi's offerings as we have never used them but i will suggest if your using you pc for serious work get a serious card.

Kind regrads
Edited by Ghilly - 10/20/11 at 7:28am
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