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lol @ people for acting like 10 feet is far


some of these excuses are funny
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post #182 of 258
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Originally Posted by hellonwheelz View Post
You don't even know the factors that go into a trade dress verdict, let alone one single successful verdict, and you feel like you can discuss it with full knowledge and veracity.

http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/si...96%20FCR%20107

There's one for you.
That's a trademarked logo. No one is taking Apple's logo. COMPLETELY different scenario. This is the physical appearance of a product. Coca-Cola can't sue nor do anything against Pepsi for having the same design on their plastic bottles. That would be monopolistic just like Apple's suits; they're just trying to eliminate competition.

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Originally Posted by hellonwheelz View Post
http://www.bitlaw.com/patent/design.html#Trademark

Hey try reading! What a surprise.... A design patent protects only the ornamental appearance of an article, and not its structure or utilitarian features.

So, only an idiot would think you need to turn a Galaxy Pad on, or that the insides are different and that means "victory for Samsung". Is that fair to say?

But hey feel free to "debunk" the people who actually know something about the law.
From that very page about Design Patents:
Quote:
If a design is utilitarian in nature as well as ornamental (such as computer mouse design which is more comfortable to use), a design patent will not protect the design.


Utilitarian - designed to be useful, practical, etc.
Ornamental - designed to be decorative.

The iPad's physical design is exactly both of those. That was a pretty hard flop of an article to use.
Edited by Stealth Pyros - 10/16/11 at 5:48pm
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post #183 of 258
how can you sue someone over having a screen? thats all they are a screen with a black bezel. so retarded
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Cool story bro.
valid story bro, try thinking for a second instead of having a response ready.
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post #185 of 258
stupid example, and that should have been with "objection your honor"
a waiter brings two glasses
one is filled with coca cola, other is with pepsi cola, whih is which...
especially if you don't drink cola
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stupid situation concerning everything
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That's a trademarked logo. No one is taking Apple's logo. COMPLETELY different scenario. This is the physical appearance of a product. Coca-Cola can't sue nor do anything against Pepsi for having the same design on their plastic bottles. That would be monopolistic just like Apple's suits; they're just trying to eliminate competition.
I agree with most of your post, except that Coca-Cola actually CAN sue for the shape of the bottle. Google Coca-cola bottle trade dress. The situation is not paralleled in tablets, however, as the Coca-cola bottle is made distinct from a generic, simplified bottle. The iPad on the other hand, is a very generic simplified form on the product. It would be more along the lines of Coca-cola trademarking a simple bottle instead of their distinct design. And, no, Apple was not the first to use a "simple" design on a tablet. They should have to make it distinct in order for it to be patentable. You cannot describe a Coca-cola bottle in one sentence to someone in words and have them picture the bottle.
    
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Give me a break, the look of a tablet is following in the same evolutionary footsteps as the lcd television and monitor. So what if Apple was the first to make it popular (read: not invent it), doesn't mean we should stifle innovation. If apple was the first to make LCD monitors, we'd all still be using CRTs.

It's also very telling that Apple is only suing Samsung, considering the Xoom and Asus EE pad have been out for months and all look nearly identical from 20 feet away without any carrier branding. Must just be a coincidence that Samsung happens to be the most successful competitor in terms of Smartphone sales and some of that may spill over into the tablet market...
    
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That's a trademarked logo. No one is taking Apple's logo. COMPLETELY different scenario. This is the physical appearance of a product. Coca-Cola can't sue nor do anything against Pepsi for having the same design on their plastic bottles. That would be monopolistic just like Apple's suits; they're just trying to eliminate competition.

From that very page about Design Patents:



Utilitarian - designed to be useful, practical, etc.
Ornamental - designed to be decorative.

The iPad's physical design is exactly both of those. That was a pretty hard flop of an article to use.
On the contrary, they can. It's called Trade Dress and it's designed to protect the consumer from being deceived in to buying a product different than they thought they were buying. For example, if Pepsi did copy Coke's design, or make a very similar one, Coke could sue them.
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On the contrary, they can. It's called Trade Dress and it's designed to protect the consumer from being deceived in to buying a product different than they thought they were buying. For example, if Pepsi did copy Coke's design, or make a very similar one, Coke could sue them.
That still doesn't really work, let me try to explain why:

Coca-Cola and Pepsi's liquid soda are practically identical. Place the two side by side in a clear glass and I highly doubt you can tell them apart. The way you CAN tell them apart is by their packaging. Correct? Pepsi's bottles cannot look exactly like Coca-Cola's classic glass bottles.

The Galaxy Tab, although it looks like the iPad, comes in COMPLETELY, world's apart, different packaging, that clearly indicates which product we're actually looking at. So what is the issue here? Coca-Cola having sole rights to their bottle design isn't like Apple having sole rights to their iPad design; it would be more like Apple having sole rights to the iPad's packaging design. Samsung has done THEIR part to distinguish their tablet from the iPad, now it's all up to the consumer to decide which tablet to buy, and Apple is just unhappy about that. They want the iPad to be the only choice.





And I still just don't understand how this case hasn't been thrown out the window. The Galaxy Tab has a pretty obvious "SAMSUNG" logo both on the product and on the retail packaging.


Edited by Stealth Pyros - 10/16/11 at 7:21pm
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