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I'm not a lawyer, I know jack about copyright/trademark/etc law.

That being said, for a touch device, rounded metallic corners and a black edge are beyond obvious design decisions. In my mind, this is like Popsicle suing a competitor who used a stick to let people hold their ice cream treat.

I will admit they are similar.
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If the designs were so obvious. Why were they not being done before apple started dropping their product into the market?
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If the designs were so obvious. Why were they not being done before apple started dropping their product into the market?
Good point, but someone has to bring it to market first.

I bet if you gave a hundred design teams the assignment, more than half would arrive at a similar design without any knowledge of the iPad. Pure speculation, but the design isn't exactly outlandish or hard to conceive of.

The rounded back of the iPad is something I think is more unique, and they don't share that. Most tablets will have maximal screen space, a solid color border and buttons on the edge.
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If the designs were so obvious. Why were they not being done before apple started dropping their product into the market?
HP TC1100, came out in 2004. This alone should slam Apple's patent to hell as prior art.

Edit: Lol, it actually released in February 2003.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HP_Compaq_TC1100

Apple is using this patent in their case, claiming that they own sole rights to their design.

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-P...RS=PN/D504,889
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I'm not a lawyer, I know jack about copyright/trademark/etc law.

That being said, for a touch device, rounded metallic corners and a black edge are beyond obvious design decisions. In my mind, this is like Popsicle suing a competitor who used a stick to let people hold their ice cream treat.

I will admit they are similar.
Your post is appreciated. But the best designs are obvious in retrospect, wouldn't you say?
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Your post is appreciated. But the best designs are obvious in retrospect, wouldn't you say?
Absolutely. I fully agree.

However an obviously good decision isn't exactly an innovation that should be protected.
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Oh ho oh!!! Fail on apples side. I wonder if apple would argue that it's only when it's disconnected from the keyboard it has that design whereas the iPad is standalone and always is like that. Idk I'm just throwing stuff out there apple could possibly say.
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BFD! Instead of wasting time on this apple should be pushing the next big thing to market.... oh thats right, Jobs is gone. We will probably see apple not produce any amazing new things with Jobs gone. I hope that Tim Cook can do 50% as much as Jobs did, but only time will tell.
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Really?
Yes really. It took me a couple minutes to even figure out the one on the left was the same phone in my pocket. Granted they are all obviously different from each other.

Then again having to similar things that are obviously different when you know where to look is nothing new. For proof just Google Chevy Nova and Plymouth Duster and compare most of those images. Having a lawyer get confused from 10 feet is irrelevant. Especially if the judge covered the button on the iPad.

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BFD! Instead of wasting time on this apple should be pushing the next big thing to market.... oh thats right, Jobs is gone. We will probably see apple not produce any amazing new things with Jobs gone. I hope that Tim Cook can do 50% as much as Jobs did, but only time will tell.
Seriously? I expect the opposite to happen. I think Jobs was the one responsible for most of the things I dislike about Apple. I mean look how awesome he did in the first 6 or 7 years after the Woz left.
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Even i won't be able to tell between a samsung and LG lcd monitor from 10 feet away.
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