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Well the ipad design patent is from 2005.

Apple released a shipping product in the spring of 2010. Microsoft didn't, annoucing vaporware when you know that apple is releasing a slate is... laughable.

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In what world do you live in where January 7th, 2010 (CES Slate announcement) comes after January 27th, 2010 (iPad announcement)?

Whether or not they were released is irrelevant. The design is hardly Apples to claim is what the point is. Similar designs were around before the iPad and they're obviously still around after the iPad.

p.s. Rumors are called that for a reason. No one truly knew what the iPad would look like. Just as people thought the iPhone 4s was supposed to be called the iPhone 5 and have the ability to fly or some crap like that.
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You've stayed fancy throughout the conversation here and I admire that. Hellonwheelz has been rather butt-hurt over my responses regardless of how strong/reasonable/easily debatable they have been.

How much more differentiation is needed other than an obnoxiously huge SAMSUNG emblem on the front though? What exactly is the set legal standard requirement to give consumers enough information to distinguish one product from another similar product in the same department? I mean, I'm sure pretty much all of us here can agree that nearly all current TVs "look" the same, with the obvious difference being the company's logo on the bezel, and we're not seeing many if any lawsuits between TV manufacturers, are we? This is Apple, and it's rather obvious that they're only striving to cut the biggest competition out. (I'd say the Galaxy is surely the best iPad competitor right now) A tablet is by default a pretty generic shape. What should Samsung be expected to do? Build a tablet in the shape of on octagon to look different than an iPad? It already is narrower by a large enough margin to tell the difference.

Ok, so there is a white box variant after all. Now I definitely do agree that the Samsung box is nearly identical, but it still does clearly indicate "SAMSUNG GALAXY TAB," which should be the only concern. I can think of hundreds of brands that all use plain cardboard boxes with only their company logos on it and whatnot. I wonder if Samsung handles Apple's packaging?
The question is though, should Samsung allowed to "take" Apple's designs and use them for themselves in regard to packaging? The boxes are practically identical but they never were before the iPhone was introduced.
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If I recall correctly, one of the things Apple said (Apart from the picture on the box) was that the phone "is held in a cradle, so as to be immediately presented to the user when they open the box."

Both the Motorola V3 and V3xx did this before the iPhone, the first iteration I saw of Apples box design was my iPod Classic I had from November 2007.

How is it different in any way apart from shape? Apple only specified that its a cradle holding the product, not that its a rectangle made of matte plastic that hugs the phone/iPod/whatever.
They still did it in a different way though. Apple also said: "a two-piece box wherein the bottom piece is completely nested in the top piece;" which if my understanding is correct, excludes the photo you posted. Additionally the iPhone isn't elevated and nor is it in foam, rather on equal level with the box.

That box is also much larger and does it have a nearly full sized image of the phone itself on the front? I couldn't see from that picture.

Apple's packaging is noticeably different from the V3's packaging. Samsung's packaging however, is almost identical to Apple's packaging. I'm sure they'd be happy if Samsung changed to a design more like the V3, or just something different overall but every design element in Apple's packaging is mimicked on Samsung's packaging.
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I don't understand it. It's a tablet. Apple can't Monopolize the market, there are laws against that. If there is a similarity, it's the use of a rectangle as a shape, and maybe the glossy black border. Apple must be hurting, or be getting greedy. The rectangle is a completely different ratio, even! Why didn't APPLE or somebody patent the right to a keyboard and mouse input, and a monitor output? I mean, really? Bastards.
And they are whining about packaging? Who CARES?!?
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Well seeing as how Apple sets the tempo in the mobile market (tablets, cell phones, laptops, ultra books, mp3 players), Apple is all that matters really.
Apple hardly set the tempo in the laptop or (After the original iPhone/3G) the smartphone market.

The iPhone4 and 4S were practically the same as other Android phones released earlier (Bar GPU speed in the 4S, it's a SGSII with an inferior screen.), all Apple did was kickstart the mainstream smartphone.

As for the laptop market...New releases are inspired by new hardware, not by "OH NO! APPLE ARE MAKING A NEW LAPTOP, RELEASE NEW STUFF!", not many manufacterers are using Apples over-rated aluminium cases (To make up for a bad internal design, this Samsung R540 laptop is a good design and just as, if not more, robust than a Macbook Pro, without burning my balls off if I actually have it on my lap) nor are they really using anything else Apple bought to market. (Eg. Thunderbolt, miniVGA/DVI/Displayport/HDMI, etc)

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The question is though, should Samsung allowed to "take" Apple's designs and use them for themselves in regard to packaging? The boxes are practically identical but they never were before the iPhone was introduced.

They still did it in a different way though. Apple also said: "a two-piece box wherein the bottom piece is completely nested in the top piece;" which if my understanding is correct, excludes the photo you posted. Additionally the iPhone isn't elevated and nor is it in foam, rather on equal level with the box.

That box is also much larger and does it have a nearly full sized image of the phone itself on the front? I couldn't see from that picture.

Apple's packaging is noticeably different from the V3's packaging. Samsung's packaging however, is almost identical to Apple's packaging. I'm sure they'd be happy if Samsung changed to a design more like the V3, or just something different overall but every design element in Apple's packaging is mimicked on Samsung's packaging.
Yes, that part still stands, I was referring to the cradling part.
And it does have a nearly full sized picture of the phone on the front, here's a picture of my box from ~2004.




And a fun fact, the SGSII box hasn't got a photo of the phone on it:



And it's pretty different to the iPod Classic box I have, the classic has a lip at the bottom that doesn't rise up and is easier to open for instance.
    
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Hahahahha, too funny! That thing is fugly!
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Yes, that part still stands, I was referring to the cradling part.
And it does have a nearly full sized picture of the phone on the front, here's a picture of my box from ~2004.




And a fun fact, the SGSII box hasn't got a photo of the phone on it:



And it's pretty different to the iPod Classic box I have, the classic has a lip at the bottom that doesn't rise up and is easier to open for instance.
Mmm, I see. Good to know. Hahaha, nice little 1.2GHz there though... looks like a pretty cool box.
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Hahahahha, too funny! That thing is fugly!
We use those at work. They're 10x more functional than any Ipad or Android tablet on the market.
 
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A screen looks like a screen? Since when are the look of a LCD screen a copyright infringement. This just makes me more into not buying Apples products, stupid company with there panties in a twist....

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A screen looks like a screen? Since when are the look of a LCD screen a copyright infringement. This just makes me more into not buying Apples products, stupid company with there panties in a twist....

The lawsuit isn't about the screen or the shape of it. Guess all you ever read was the title and the 3 line quote. You know, there's a website called "Google" and you can enter things in it and get results. Maybe if you spent 3 seconds of your time doing a search and then read what the lawsuit is about you wouldn't have make such a ignorant statement.

If you don't understand all the legal lingo have someone explain it to you. Until then you can continue your uninformed, irrational and ignorant claims about Apple.

Might want to fixed your grammar before criticizing others.
 
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We use those at work. They're 10x more functional than any Ipad or Android tablet on the market.
Really? Are they FAA approved for in flight pilot use? Built in gps? How many movies can i watch without plugging in?

Is there a program that can turn into a velocity sensing chordal instrument, with near zero latency?

Is it light enough to take backpacking?

How long does it take to wake up?

How long will it sleep for without depleting the battery?

3d gaming anywhere near the frame rate and polygon count of Real racing 2?
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