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I'm sure some of you have seen my annoying posts around here. ^_^

I've finally decided that for the time being, I am going to drop my budget for my next monitor. Keep in mind I'm looking for no larger than 24".

I do game quite a bit, so I have my U2410 and I have never had any issues with it. As a matter of fact, I think it is extremely well built, and the many options for tilting and maneuverability are fantastic.

However, I want something beastmode for my next monitor, so I was looking heavily at both NEC and Eizo. From what I recall, NEC uses the fabulous IPS panel while Eizo uses something else...I'm not sure how they justify double the price, but if anyone knows anything chime in!

My primary thoughts were the NEC 2490WUXi2, NEC PA241W and the Eizo ColorEdge CG245W.

Anyone have any suggestions? Other monitors are welcomed as well!
post #2 of 16
Why not just bump your earlier thread?

http://www.overclock.net/monitors-di...0wuxi2-vs.html

CG245W is also IPS.

http://www.eizo.com/global/iblick/spec/?id=CG245W


The PA241W-BK-SV will be the closest because it's the same panel (LM240WU4-SLB1) as your Dell, according to TFTcentral. Get it with SpectraView II and you will have a calibrated monitor for years and years... and years.

Since the colorimeter that comes with the PA241W is specifically tuned for this same panel, it should also work incredibly on your Dell with another piece of software so you can keep them both looking great and quite similar in sRGB or Adobe RGB for years to come.

The SpectraView II colorimeter is a specially tuned Eye One Display 2, so you can then go to X-rite's web site, download their software, and create ICM profiles for the Dell as well..

Win-win.
Edited by 10e - 10/14/11 at 12:36pm
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post #3 of 16
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Originally Posted by 10e View Post
Why not just bump your earlier thread?

http://www.overclock.net/monitors-di...0wuxi2-vs.html

CG245W is also IPS.

http://www.eizo.com/global/iblick/spec/?id=CG245W


The PA241W-BK-SV will be the closest because it's the same panel (LM240WU4-SLB1) as your Dell, according to TFTcentral. Get it with SpectraView II and you will have a calibrated monitor for years and years... and years.

Since the colorimeter that comes with the PA241W is specifically tuned for this same panel, it should also work incredibly on your Dell with another piece of software so you can keep them both looking great and quite similar in sRGB or Adobe RGB for years to come.

The SpectraView II colorimeter is a specially tuned Eye One Display 2, so you can then go to X-rite's web site, download their software, and create ICM profiles for the Dell as well..

Win-win.
I appreciate your help, 10e.

Your analogy of the CG being a niche market like the grayscale medical screens was a very good one. However, what niche does the CG serve? They have a great panel, 5ms GTG (1ms faster than my U2410), and calibration - which makes me wonder why it wouldn't surpass the U2410 for gaming purposes as well as color/everything.

Then again, what makes the Eizo better than the NEC?

Also, how can Eizo justify a $3,000 price tag on the 245W? Seriously though, how can they?
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I personally don't think the Eizo is better than the NEC, just more expensive IMHO.

There are only two differences:

1) How they perform gamut emulation from "full" gamut to Adobe RGB or sRGB
2) The NEC has Color Comp while the Eizo has DUE. This is a special feature where the monitor is "tuned" from the factory to use electronics to compensate for color and brightness uniformity deficiencies. The NEC's ColorComp is adjustable and can be toggled on/off while the Eizo's DUE (digital uniformity) is not.

Pixel response between the Dell, Eizo and NEC will be the same. The rating is just marketecture and no faster than your Dell in regular practice. The NEC's overdrive circuit can be toggled on/off, the Eizo I'm not sure.

The Eizo is targeted specifically to professional photographers and people in the pre-press industry while the NEC is targeted to "pro-sumers", but offers probably 100% of the features the Eizo does, at a much more reasonable price.

Hope that helps.
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post #5 of 16
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Alright, well at least I've narrowed it down to the two supposed best providers.

But which models represent the cream of the crop?

NEC had the WUXi which, from what I recall, was the best monitor out there. Now they have the WUXi2, which apparently isn't comparable.

NEC also has the PA series, the 245W specifically which is what I am considering.

Eizo has the ColorEdge series, the CG245 specifically.

TBH, specs don't mean crap to me anymore. So what's the real difference between the 3?
post #6 of 16
http://configure.dell.com/dellstore/...=baynoteSearch

'Nuff said.

I have 2 of these bad-boys are they are MINDBLOWING.. I got 2 for 1

But aside from that, they are just mind blowing, i cant believe how well they perform.

Jon
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Originally Posted by Jeazy View Post
http://configure.dell.com/dellstore/...=baynoteSearch

'Nuff said.

I have 2 of these bad-boys are they are MINDBLOWING.. I got 2 for 1

But aside from that, they are just mind blowing, i cant believe how well they perform.

Jon
Err, I'm sure they get the job done in terms of low input lag and refresh rate, but I'm looking for something with an incredibly (keyword) high quality picture, astonishing color balance, long-lasting, quality support, etc.

Hence why I'm looking at NEC and Eizo.
post #8 of 16
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Looking at the specs of both the WUXi2 and the PA241 with the SV kit...they are both nearly identical until we come to the palette, in which case the PA241 wins out for an extra $100.

But with all the hype of the WUXi and the WUXi2, what's the real difference between the two?
post #9 of 16
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Originally Posted by xyeLz View Post
Looking at the specs of both the WUXi2 and the PA241 with the SV kit...they are both nearly identical until we come to the palette, in which case the PA241 wins out for an extra $100.

But with all the hype of the WUXi and the WUXi2, what's the real difference between the two?
I covered that earlier in your first thread in this post:

http://www.overclock.net/15223826-post8.html

Same electronics, different panel. A-TW polarizer is only on 24" screens that are $2000.00 or more nowadays.

The PA monitors have more features and more flexibility than the WUXI series. They also fix some earlier problems like the WUXI series having trouble going to dark brightnesses without losing contrast, etc....

If I were in the market for something color accurate, flexible, and a great all-rounder, the PA-series would be my choice if I had the budget for it.

Eizo is great too, but the premium in $$$ buys you nothing.
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post #10 of 16
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Eizo is great too, but the premium in $$$ buys you nothing.
Thanks for the help. You've been very good.

Why do people buy Eizo's if they don't offer anything over the half-as-much NECs?
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