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I installed last night and I did install the latest RST drivers but when I am at the desktop and I look at the RST icon it say it is not enabled when it I have just booted to the destop. I have to open it up then it is running it seems. I timed it last night on restart with the app for timing it and it took 53 sec, and this morning on cold boot it took 43 sec. I have the M4 set in position 1 in the bios and AHCI mode. It is connected to the Intel 6gb sata ports. I also did a lot fo the Tweaks for the SSD listed in the sticky post here. I disabled the windows GUI and set time out to 0 and did the registry hack for the shut down reduction in time set to 1000. I have a few things starting up with windows like Steam, CCC, RST, Logitech G13 LCD monitor applets and the keymaping program. I have seen many videos of people getting 20sec boot times with the M4's.

One thing to note is that when I do boot a lot of times i never even see the splash screen for the mobo on cold boot(only restart) the monitors just stay black until the windows welcome screen with only a very quick flash of the screens before that showing the option to boot into safe mode but i cant read it that fast enough. It is the screen just before you see the splash screen for the mobo. I have done the other usual tweaks like turn off system restore, enable write cache and turning off write cache flusing, paging, and indexing. The M4 seems to work fine as far as the read/write speeds. I get what you are supposed to get with an M4 so it is telling me the SATA cable is ifne and the drivers are fine correct? I also did update the mobo BIOS to 1904 the latest. Chipset drivers are teh latest as well unless none of these drivers installed properly. I had first installed the older chipset and RST drivers from my ASUS mobo installation CD in order to get the internet working. I just installed all the drivers that were on that disk. Then I went and loaded the new ones, and I did not remove the old ones first.
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Intel RST is set for delayed startup by default.

When you have a HDD added, boot is longer than just the ssd itself.

I'd be looking at bios options as the culprit for the boot times.
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I installed last night and I did install the latest RST drivers but when I am at the desktop and I look at the RST icon it say it is not enabled when it I have just booted to the destop. I have to open it up then it is running it seems. I timed it last night on restart with the app for timing it and it took 53 sec, and this morning on cold boot it took 43 sec. I have the M4 set in position 1 in the bios and AHCI mode. It is connected to the Intel 6gb sata ports. I also did a lot fo the Tweaks for the SSD listed in the sticky post here. I disabled the windows GUI and set time out to 0 and did the registry hack for the shut down reduction in time set to 1000. I have a few things starting up with windows like Steam, CCC, RST, Logitech G13 LCD monitor applets and the keymaping program. I have seen many videos of people getting 20sec boot times with the M4's.

One thing to note is that when I do boot a lot of times i never even see the splash screen for the mobo on cold boot(only restart) the monitors just stay black until the windows welcome screen with only a very quick flash of the screens before that showing the option to boot into safe mode but i cant read it that fast enough. It is the screen just before you see the splash screen for the mobo. I have done the other usual tweaks like turn off system restore, enable write cache and turning off write cache flusing, paging, and indexing. The M4 seems to work fine as far as the read/write speeds. I get what you are supposed to get with an M4 so it is telling me the SATA cable is ifne and the drivers are fine correct? I also did update the mobo BIOS to 1904 the latest. Chipset drivers are teh latest as well unless none of these drivers installed properly. I had first installed the older chipset and RST drivers from my ASUS mobo installation CD in order to get the internet working. I just installed all the drivers that were on that disk. Then I went and loaded the new ones, and I did not remove the old ones first.
Regarding the icon in the System Notification, it is set to "Delayed Start". However, even if you had it start immediately it wouldn't affect performance (I am speaking from experience).

So I'll focus on what will affect performance: your UEFI settings. Before I do, I want to say one thing: anyone who says they get 20 seconds is probably timing it from the moment their motherboard's POST ends. So in reality, you have about the same boot time as they do.

Anyway, on with the UEFI settings:
  1. Go into the Advanced tab
  2. Open up "Onboard Devices Configuration"
  3. Disable "Marvell Storage Controller"
  4. Disable "JMB Storage Controller" (this will disable eSATA functionality)
  5. Exit out of Onboard Devices Configuration (right-click is a fast way out)
  6. Go into the Boot tab
  7. Disable "Full Screen Logo"
  8. Press F10 to save and exit


Now, there's one problem: for as long as you have a hard drive connected to the motherboard, your boot times and reboot times will be slowed down by it because it needs time to do other things, such as spinning down, spinning up, initializing, etc. It may be the Caviar Black, but it's still just a hard drive.
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Originally Posted by mcg75 View Post
Intel RST is set for delayed startup by default.

When you have a HDD added, boot is longer than just the ssd itself.

I'd be looking at bios options as the culprit for the boot times.
Its not ture that if you have HDD added to have longer boot.
It takes me 6-10seconds to boot into Windows.

It could be also bad Windows install. Did you check if its set in ACHI or IDE in registry? Just google a bit.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shame486 View Post
Its not ture that if you have HDD added to have longer boot.
It takes me 6-10seconds to boot into Windows.

It could be also bad Windows install. Did you check if its set in ACHI or IDE in registry? Just google a bit.
You must not of read my post. Also 6-10sec boot times? Really?
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Ok i will try your suggestions. The only thing is my i had the hdd unplugged when i timed the restart. It was plugged in for the cold boot though.


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Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post
Regarding the icon in the System Notification, it is set to "Delayed Start". However, even if you had it start immediately it wouldn't affect performance (I am speaking from experience).

So I'll focus on what will affect performance: your UEFI settings. Before I do, I want to say one thing: anyone who says they get 20 seconds is probably timing it from the moment their motherboard's POST ends. So in reality, you have about the same boot time as they do.

Anyway, on with the UEFI settings:
  1. Go into the Advanced tab
  2. Open up "Onboard Devices Configuration"
  3. Disable "Marvell Storage Controller"
  4. Disable "JMB Storage Controller" (this will disable eSATA functionality)
  5. Exit out of Onboard Devices Configuration (right-click is a fast way out)
  6. Go into the Boot tab
  7. Disable "Full Screen Logo"
  8. Press F10 to save and exit


Now, there's one problem: for as long as you have a hard drive connected to the motherboard, your boot times and reboot times will be slowed down by it because it needs time to do other things, such as spinning down, spinning up, initializing, etc. It may be the Caviar Black, but it's still just a hard drive.
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Originally Posted by Shame486 View Post
Its not ture that if you have HDD added to have longer boot.
It takes me 6-10seconds to boot into Windows.

It could be also bad Windows install. Did you check if its set in ACHI or IDE in registry? Just google a bit.
6-10 seconds? Yeah, once the POST ends right?

How long does it take to boot your system from the moment you press the power button?
Edited by TwoCables - 10/14/11 at 1:46pm
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My boot takes as long as it takes my external usb hard drives to spin up. Sometimes it will hang on the splash screen for 30 seconds, sometimes 5. Don't know how to stop that from happening so i've just gotten used to it.
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Its not ture that if you have HDD added to have longer boot.
Yeah, it must just be my imagination that Windows loads before the 4 spheres come together with no HDD's and then a couple seconds after when my 4 other drives are connected.
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Yeah, it must just be my imagination that Windows loads before the 4 spheres come together with no HDD's and then a couple seconds after when my 4 other drives are connected.
Yeah, that must be the placebo effect.
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