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Internal use is one thing, but I leave the name lookups to the big dogs. There is no way I can make a system fast enough to compete with my ISP, OpenDNS or Google.

Well, There are tons of users on them, this DNS server might not have too many. biggrin.gif
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Internal use is one thing, but I leave the name lookups to the big dogs. There is no way I can make a system fast enough to compete with my ISP, OpenDNS or Google.
Oh ok - so that's not really the point I am trying to make. Your DNS server still relies on another source to resolve names. I'm no expert, and there are many layers - but think of it this way: you can run your own DNS server that manages your domains - add A records (name to IP Address), CNAME (alias to alias), MX records (mail), and many others...

The way I use my DNS servers is not a resolver, you really don't want to be a public resolver (google 8.8.8.8 is a resolver, so is 4.2.2.2...)

Basically for a hosting company you would run a DNS server to control your customers domains. You can add mail records for them, and any other things they need. I have an A record (instead of using dyndns or other "instant" updating services) to point to my computer at home so I can remote desktop.

Some DNS services you have to wait 15 minutes, an hour, or 24-48 hours for delegation to be completed. The big dogs don't like to update that often - my guess is resources. With your own small setup, you reload DNS and then when the big dog queries your server to see where XXX goes to, your server will spit out the correct response.

If your DNS is pointed to 8.8.8.8, and you query my domain.com - Google asks my name servers how to get there. That is where you have complete control.
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Oh ok - so that's not really the point I am trying to make. Your DNS server still relies on another source to resolve names. I'm no expert, and there are many layers - but think of it this way: you can run your own DNS server that manages your domains - add A records (name to IP Address), CNAME (alias to alias), MX records (mail), and many others...

The way I use my DNS servers is not a resolver, you really don't want to be a public resolver (google 8.8.8.8 is a resolver, so is 4.2.2.2...)

Basically for a hosting company you would run a DNS server to control your customers domains. You can add mail records for them, and any other things they need. I have an A record (instead of using dyndns or other "instant" updating services) to point to my computer at home so I can remote desktop.

Some DNS services you have to wait 15 minutes, an hour, or 24-48 hours for delegation to be completed. The big dogs don't like to update that often - my guess is resources. With your own small setup, you reload DNS and then when the big dog queries your server to see where XXX goes to, your server will spit out the correct response.

If your DNS is pointed to 8.8.8.8, and you query my domain.com - Google asks my name servers how to get there. That is where you have complete control.
That's exactly what I need to do - I only have a few clients as of now and I'd like to host my own DNS but I really don't have a clue on how to set it up
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Oh ok - so that's not really the point I am trying to make. Your DNS server still relies on another source to resolve names. I'm no expert, and there are many layers - but think of it this way: you can run your own DNS server that manages your domains - add A records (name to IP Address), CNAME (alias to alias), MX records (mail), and many others...

The way I use my DNS servers is not a resolver, you really don't want to be a public resolver (google 8.8.8.8 is a resolver, so is 4.2.2.2...)

Basically for a hosting company you would run a DNS server to control your customers domains. You can add mail records for them, and any other things they need. I have an A record (instead of using dyndns or other "instant" updating services) to point to my computer at home so I can remote desktop.

Some DNS services you have to wait 15 minutes, an hour, or 24-48 hours for delegation to be completed. The big dogs don't like to update that often - my guess is resources. With your own small setup, you reload DNS and then when the big dog queries your server to see where XXX goes to, your server will spit out the correct response.

If your DNS is pointed to 8.8.8.8, and you query my domain.com - Google asks my name servers how to get there. That is where you have complete control.
Alright. For some reason I thought, no idea why, you were talking about name resolving. If used for nothing but customers, then perfect.
    
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Alright. For some reason I thought, no idea why, you were talking about name resolving. If used for nothing but customers, then perfect.
Yeah that's all it would be needed for. I'm not doing public dns, just for the small hosting company I plan to open.
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Regardless, using the registrar, OpenDNS or something else will be less painful later on. Ive been running my own servers for over 7 years and looked into doing my own DNS and it just wasnt worth the hassle that a couple clicks could handle. You wont need OpenDNS cause youre running static, but it cant hurt if your registrar wants money to use their servers.
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Regardless, using the registrar, OpenDNS or something else will be less painful later on. Ive been running my own servers for over 7 years and looked into doing my own DNS and it just wasnt worth the hassle that a couple clicks could handle. You wont need OpenDNS cause youre running static, but it cant hurt if your registrar wants money to use their servers.
I can relate to this but in the same sense, he is asking for help on this problem. Not what we think he should do.

So - figure out how to register a nameserver with your registrar to your IP address. (i.e. ns1.yourdomain.com --> 127.0.0.1, ns2.yourdomain.com --> 127.0.0.1).

Once those propagate, it looks like your current setup should work as long as you can resolve ns1 and ns2, and obviously you need those NS records in there like you have them setup.

Or, setup a VM with Debian and run bind9.
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I can relate to this but in the same sense, he is asking for help on this problem. Not what we think he should do.

So - figure out how to register a nameserver with your registrar to your IP address. (i.e. ns1.yourdomain.com --> 127.0.0.1, ns2.yourdomain.com --> 127.0.0.1).

Once those propagate, it looks like your current setup should work as long as you can resolve ns1 and ns2, and obviously you need those NS records in there like you have them setup.

Or, setup a VM with Debian and run bind9.
Im running debian as my webserver
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Ok, I bought another domain to use as the nameservers for the main site. So for the one I just bought, should I leave the nameservers the default and have it point to my ip? And from there, set the main site's nameservers as ns1.newdomain.com, and ns2.newdomain.com?
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What are you trying to accomplished thought? Just putting in your domains as DNS entries won't resolve any IPs...

If this is an internal DNS then all entries should be valid, like you're doing. But externally, I can't hit your site. Who manages your domain names?
    
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