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That may typcally be true with Nvidia, but not so with AMD. The ref AMD design, in whatever revision are usually the best especially when dealing with current cards, Caymens and the previous gen.
What about this?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127581

Or this?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121430

Or this?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814131394

Or this?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814125371

Or this?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814125395


Are all of these non-reference cards inferior to the reference design?
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ok cool thanks prolly go with the improved XFX one then
     
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Ya, better cooling is always nice.
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Lightening and DCII are a joke. At the high end you go water anyways so the extra vrm control you need on AIR ends up killing you cuz YOU GOT ZERO FULLCOVER waterblock support. DCII is also the crappiest design, no sinks on the memory for godsake lol wth is that about. It doesn't even unlock. DOuble triple fans lol, jokes. Try hookin up tri crossfire with them and see how hot it gets. On then just watercool, oh wait no fullcover???
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Lightening and DCII are a joke. At the high end you go water anyways so the extra vrm control you need on AIR ends up killing you cuz YOU GOT ZERO FULLCOVER waterblock support. DCII is also the crappiest design, no sinks on the memory for godsake lol wth is that about. It doesn't even unlock. DOuble triple fans lol, jokes. Try hookin up tri crossfire with them and see how hot it gets. On then just watercool, oh wait no fullcover???
Yeah, well for people who don't want water cooling and just want 1 card, these are better than reference - and it's not even a complete list.
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Yeah, well for people who don't want water cooling and just want 1 card, these are better than reference - and it's not even a complete list.
That ref 6870 has a dual fan cooler anyways... what's your issue when you don't even know these cards inside and out?
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That ref 6870 has a dual fan cooler anyways... what's your issue when you don't even know these cards inside and out?
You said reference is usually better.
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You said reference is usually better.


It is when it comes to current gen Radeons.
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You said reference is usually better.
If it's not MSI brand or you don't plan on using Asus' software or Sapphire's software, it's best to just get a reference card and an aftermarket cooler.

Otherwise you're stuck with a nice cooling solution with lack of overclockability.
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If it's not MSI brand or you don't plan on using Asus' software or Sapphire's software, it's best to just get a reference card and an aftermarket cooler.

Otherwise you're stuck with a nice cooling solution with lack of overclockability.
That's the kicker. That XFX dual fan 6870 is a reference board WITH a dual fan. It's like the MSI 580 TFII, reference board with a dual fan cooler. Gets you all the air cooling you need, till you go to water fullcover style. Awesome combos.
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