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what are your opinions about this:

A NEW AUDIO PLATFORM POWERED BY SOUND CORE3D - THE WORLD'S FIRST QUAD-CORE AUDIO AND VOICE PROCESSOR
It's for marketing purposes. It has four DSPs, not actual physical "cores."

Many people are hyping this card to be this ultimate sound card. It's just another gaming sound card with new features.

SNR after >100dB isn't necessary. It's just for marketing purposes as well. Hell many audiophile quality stuff is slightly below that.

There needs to be some fact checking done for you guys.
    
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Isn't the point of the shroud on the Fatal1ty to reduce EMI from a video card a few mm away? plastic doesn't do that, why put a plastic window on it?

functionality > aesthetics

X-Fi Fatal1ty Pro

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is that onkyo ? heard it not so good on gaming ?
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The Recon3d Fatality professional is similar to the titanium X-FI HD. From what I can tell it has EVERYTHING the x-fi titanium HD has + more.

I'm not sure why you'd say that creative won't replace the x-fi titanium HD, it is still using the old X-Fi audio processor and not the recon 3d. As creative has always done in the past, eventually all of their products will migrate to the newer audio processor for their high end audio cards, except for the extremely budget/low end stuff which will use the X-Fi audio processor. Similar to how the low end cards now use the audigy processor.
lol, are you making that conclusion based on pictures? if anything it looks exactly like the X-Fi Fatality Pro except it has a window in the EMI shield so you can see the new processor

the whole point to the X-Fi HD is to include superior DACs and OP-amps (which are easily replaceable to improve quality even further) to provide superior sound quality, not add features, and from the specs they give, the Recon3D is virtually identical to the Titanium (again, other than the processor), not the HD.
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If creative has found a way to bring this eax 3d positional audio to games that don't support eax or some other creative technology, then creative has a strong product.
As far as I know, EAX only works in games which specifically support EAX, which means older games. Would be nice to have it in all games.

What I love about EAX is increased audio realism in single player games. Based on my EAX experiences, little or no sound passes through walls and closed doors. Bad news is ... in some cases, this could sometimes be a "tactical" disadvantage, especially in multi-player games.

As far as I know, CMSS-3D can work in any game. I am replaying Fallout New Vegas now. Even though it does not support EAX, I still added it to alchemy and enabled cmss-3D. The 3D effect is quite good with headphones. I intend to setup all my games in alchemy, just in case it helps improve 3D audio. On Creative's site and forum, there are some recommended alchemy settings for both EAX and non-EAX games.
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So a Titanium HD with PC speaker jacks? Thats a good thing. I wanted the HD but there is not way to connect it to my PC speakers as they only have standard pc speaker connection.
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I know that's the focus, but should it be?

Anyone relying on an analog connection is likely going to benefit much more from quality DACs than from a fancy DSP, if they care anything about how things sound.
Depends.

Lets assume this card only competed with the DG as far as "sound quality" went. I wouldn't be inclined to purchase this as an "audio upgrade", but if it were to offer superior positional audio and effects, I would see no harm done if creative priced these cards for around $50~60 USD.

Now considering that froggle has the basic model priced at $110~, I'm a little worried. It seems that creative likes to shoot themselves in the foot when they could literally control the market if they offered decently priced cards that didn't date back to 2004...

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So a Titanium HD with PC speaker jacks? Thats a good thing. I wanted the HD but there is not way to connect it to my PC speakers as they only have standard pc speaker connection.
No, more like an updated titanium vanilla and fatality.

The HD is built with a high end DAC, ADC, and other various components. These cards seem to focus more on the digital sound processor than actual sound quality. (Not saying that the SQ is poor, because noone knows yet)
Edited by Skylit - 10/15/11 at 12:40pm
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So these are the successor cards to X-Fi technology?
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Still no decent/updated EAX support for Windows 7? I'll pass.
    
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Still no decent/updated EAX support for Windows 7? I'll pass.
EAX is not possible on NT 6.0 and NT 6.1. Furthermore, EAX is not used by games anymore.
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