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Thank you for taking the time and effort to show the difference between them both.

If you after real luminosity then may i suggest i send you UV yellow / Green instead wink.gif. All so if you like ill send over some UV pink & UV clear blue. you can give your verdict on them.

The reason for UV green not being as bright has nothing really to do with how weak our mixtures or or how strong they are. Its to do with how much blue is added to UV yellow / green. We add a bit more to give a deeper colour were as Feser add a little less. Obversely adding more blue will darken down the mix and will not reflect the light back as well as adding less blue.

If you after a brighter green mixing UV yellow / Green with a tiny amount of deep blue you can balance the mix how you like.

Here is are some Guides to making your own Green mixes.

All so if you have used tap water with our mixture then you need to add a biocide in the tap water will change the colour of the dye as we don't use any additives in the dyes. Feser does. The reason why we don't add any thing extra in is because when using dyes in pre mixes it doesn't limit you to what pre-mix you add our dyes into were as feser dye in ours can have a side effect as you mixing two totally different biocides and inhibitors.
Edited by Mayhem - 10/15/11 at 8:29am
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I am surprised there isn't more hatters in here bashing on dying.

I don't use it but that is just because I use colored tubing and I am way to cheap to buy dye... @ $8 a bottle i'd go broke as often as I change my loop
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Same here lol
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I dont use any dyes in my system. But I like the deeper green of the Mayhems dye Looks like it would work better with or with out uv lighting
Yes, Mayhems has a more consistind and solid color. If you are after a green build (ie, Nvidia themed ) this is a lovely choice .

I think Feser should call this "Acid" or "Neon" uv Green but I think they already market an "acid green" premix but not a dye.

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I am surprised there isn't more hatters in here bashing on dying.

I don't use it but that is just because I use colored tubing and I am way to cheap to buy dye... @ $8 a bottle i'd go broke as often as I change my loop
I've been through craptastic dyes, in particular dye bombs from Primochill. When I heard about Mayhems new stuff, I became curious about how it would perform. I was mainly interested if it held up better and not separated. I didn't do any performance testing since really that's not relevant to the whole uv bling setup . I think if you pick the right premix or dye and flush out your gear it may hold for several months with proper care.

I have to say Nick, seeing your builds, the Mayhems would look right at home

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Same here lol
After my bad experience, i was a skeptic and I advocated not to use dyes. But recently I have been seeing beautiful builds with colored coolant and I wanted that look again for my newest build(s). The debate goes on which one holds better but I have heard plenty of testimonies of certain dyes and premixes holding great.

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Thank you for taking the time and effort to show the difference between them both.

If you after real luminosity then may i suggest i send you UV yellow / Green instead . All so if you like ill send over some UV pink & UV clear blue. you can give your verdict on them.

The reason for UV green not being as bright has nothing really to do with how weak our mixtures or or how strong they are. Its to do with how much blue is added to UV yellow / green. We add a bit more to give a deeper colour were as Feser add a little less. Obversely adding more blue will darken down the mix and will not reflect the light back as well as adding less blue.

If you after a brighter green mixing UV yellow / Green with a tiny amount of deep blue you can balance the mix how you like.

Here is are some Guides to making your own Green mixes.

All so if you have used tap water with our mixture then you need to add a biocide in the tap water will change the colour of the dye as we don't use any additives in the dyes. Feser does. The reason why we don't add any thing extra in is because when using dyes in pre mixes it doesn't limit you to what pre-mix you add our dyes into were as feser dye in ours can have a side effect as you mixing two totally different biocides and inhibitors.
Thank you for the information and offer, pm sent
Edited by wermad - 10/15/11 at 10:58am
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As everything moves on, so did coolant industry evolve.
Thanks to people like Mayhem.
Most of gunk and stain problems are bygones.
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I don't use dyes now. However, I did a while ago. If you are after the UV acid green look, you can buy a uv green dye (used to leak test car radiators) at any auto parts store for a few bucks. It really glows under UV light.

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post #17 of 147
I hope you get those samples wermad. I want to see the clear uv blue tested. Thinking about using it in my setup. Anyway testing looks like its going well and I must say Mayhems pretty active on here. I like that. Look forward to the results.
post #18 of 147
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I'm growing fond of the Mayhems on normal light. I love the Feser's uv reaction but under normal light it looks like flat Mountain Dew , which could be a good thing for some

I've decided to live without dyes for a month to wait for the separation results and I have yet to finalize my new loop as well. I may run dual loops with both dyes

I'm in contact with Mayhems about their other dyes. I have to say they are very attentive to members here. That is a great sign of great customer service.
post #19 of 147
We personally like feser stuff lol even though lots of people complain about it on the net when you consider how many years they have been selling and how much they have sold i bet you it would be lucky to be even 0.1% of there sales if even that , that have had problems.

Most of the problems can be put down to reaction to inhibitors, chemical reactions and so many other things. A lot of the time its actually not just the dyes fault, its due to us water cooling users being chemists in our own homes and mixing and matching different chemicals.

this OFC is my very own point of view.
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One of the most common mistakes is not to flush the rad. The slag will pick up the color and collect on the cpu or gpu fins. This can be easily be mistaken as dye separation and/or gunk. Its an honest mistake which not many new water coolers know how to avoid. I wish every manufacturers would stick a notice on the rad to flush it first before use (those who have not done so).
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