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After a lot of good advice on this forum, this is the build I've arrived at. I really like how it accommodates the hardware I want (1ssd, 1hdd, 1gpu, 2ram sticks) and nothing more - optimized.

As noted, the front LEDs are ultra bright and need tending to. Also, I was hoping to have this rig on my desk, but it's a little loud. The BIOS was originally set to 100% case and cpu fan speed, which I've changed to auto.
One of the GPU fans is making a noise like it's hitting a wire (which it's not), so it may have to be RMA'd.

The slot-load DVD drive (Silverstone SOD02) isn't working. It's got power and makes a noise when the eject button is pressed, but won't pull in disks. Also, there's too much space between the drive and case.

One final note about this case, the mechanism holding in the slim opti drive is retardedly difficult to negotiate and requires the smallest, longest phillips screwdriver ever. Gosh.
Edited by hl900 - 10/22/11 at 5:07pm
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If you wanted quiet, you should have gotten the SG06. The bezel design makes it a bit more quiet.

For the optical drive, try testing it without any screws holding it in. I've noticed some of these slot load drives have this issue, mostly the Sony models. They are so packed in the slim form factor that one of the screws can interfere with the internal mechanisms.
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If you wanted quiet, you should have gotten the SG06. The bezel design makes it a bit more quiet.

For the optical drive, try testing it without any screws holding it in. I've noticed some of these slot load drives have this issue, mostly the Sony models. They are so packed in the slim form factor that one of the screws can interfere with the internal mechanisms.

I'll consider swapping for the 06. The screws this slim drive came with are so tiny (1/16" of threading), I can't imagine they would be interfering in any way, but I will check as the drive needs to be removed anyway.
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I imagine the majority of your noise is coming from that stock cpu cooler. What are your idle cpu temps like?
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Originally Posted by taviyo;15357103 
I imagine the majority of your noise is coming from that stock cpu cooler. What are your idle cpu temps like?

True. The BIOS shows temps ~62c w/ case cover removed (target is 50).

EDIT: Core temps are ~40C

The sound is obviously better with the case cover on, but the open front design leaves a fairly direct path for sound to travel. At this point I'm considering swapping for an sg06 or a quiet aftermarket cpu cooler. I've found the case fan to be decently quiet.
Edited by hl900 - 10/22/11 at 5:09pm
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Originally Posted by hl900;15357276 
True. The BIOS shows temps ~62c w/ case cover removed (target is 50).

The sound is obviously better with the case cover on, but the open front design leaves a fairly direct path for sound to travel. At this point I'm considering swapping for an sg06 or a quiet aftermarket cpu cooler. I've found the case fan to be decently quiet.

wow, that's hot! The unfortunate thing that is happening is your CPU fan is drawing hot air directly from your PSU. I had to mitigate the same problem by installing a water cooling system and modifying my case, as all the low profile aftermarket air coolers all have fans that lay horizontally and will naturally draw hot air from your PSU in an SG05. This reverse air flow through the PSU probably keeps it cool enough to keep your PSU fan from kicking in at a higher speed, which may keep your cpu cooler if it did.

I am not sure you will see lower temps with an SG06.
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wow, that's hot! The unfortunate thing that is happening is your CPU fan is drawing hot air directly from your PSU. I had to mitigate the same problem by installing a water cooling system and modifying my case, as all the low profile aftermarket air coolers all have fans that lay horizontally and will naturally draw hot air from your PSU in an SG05. This reverse air flow through the PSU probably keeps it cool enough to keep your PSU fan from kicking in at a higher speed, which may keep your cpu cooler if it did.

I am not sure you will see lower temps with an SG06.

Yeah, too hot. I just unclocked it back to stock for the time being. SPCR did a b2b review on the 05 & 06 and found (as others have noted) the 06 is marginally more quiet and runs hotter.

http://www.silentpcreview.com/Silverstone_SG05_SG06

Others on this forum have flipped the psu to cool things off a bit. I may consider trying that along with a better cpu cooler.
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Shouldn't the PSU fan be exhausting? So what's actually happening is the PSU is pulling in hot air from your CPU. I think that's actually more dangerous, considering those SFX power supplies aren't really the greatest and higher temps can result in serious performance issues for the power supply.
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Shouldn't the PSU fan be exhausting? So what's actually happening is the PSU is pulling in hot air from your CPU. I think that's actually more dangerous, considering those SFX power supplies aren't really the greatest and higher temps can result in serious performance issues for the power supply.

From my experience, if the psu isn't hot enough, the psu fan doesn't spin fast enough to prevent air from reverse flowing through to the cpu. In fact, enough chassis fans blowing hot air out of your case will overcome the psu fan completely which results in the psu never increasing the fan speed as it is being cooled from outside air being drawn through it, straight to your cpu biggrin.gif. For this exact reason, I wish they built psu's that had manually adjustable fans.

Next time you have your chassis closed up and pc running, light a match and blow it out to see if the smoke is drawn into your psu or out.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hl900;15357276 
True. The BIOS shows temps ~62c w/ case cover removed (target is 50).

BIOS runs CPU at full speed, so temps will always be high. Temps will go down in Windows, because the CPU will idle at 1.6GHz and lower voltages.

Also make sure the heatsink is properly seated. Easy way is to look at the back side of the motherboard to make sure all the pins look like they are through the same amount.

You can also set the target temperature higher, like 70ºC. The CPU will be fine at those temperatures.
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