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Originally Posted by MarvinDessica;15316416 
So 8 cores perform like 4 cores? That's absolutely pathetic and a main point everyone seems to be forgetting.

Does it really matter how many cores there is? If you're paying about the same price and getting about the same performance, why does it matter?
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Just to add to the fire...

Take a look, quite interesting. Great read. Assuming this is accurate, which it probably is for the most part. (would also explain all the transistors)

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20111013232215_Ex_AMD_Engineer_Explains_Bulldozer_Fiasco.html
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So it looks like if they improve their memory controller it will improve everywhere.

More like the cache and software allocation of threads, the IMC is great in Bulldozer.
    
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Originally Posted by RussianHak;15316441 
Tell me Seven damn years is not enough????? mad.gif

yes it took them along time to get a new arch out, its not surprising since intel is alot bigger of a company and has the resources to keep going at the rate it has been, if BD does perform well for folding i will get one (only if it beats out my sig rig) + just think BD can onnly get better from now on its not like next revision will use more power and perform worse then it is, heck im sure they will even improve there single threaded apps issue
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Now, show us how does it preform with dual gpus.
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The FX-8xxx series CPUs don't actually have eight cores like AMD says. It's more like four cores with an extra integer core thrown onto each. This is why Thuban is able to keep up with BD on some occasions; because it has six actual cores whereas BD doesn't.
And the price/performance ratio is really what is important in the end, and it seems to be doing fine at ~1:1 right now between the two.

Lol? On average the BD performs only 8% better than the i5-2500k in MULTIthreaded. In single threaded it losses by 34% on average. OUCH.
BD costs more than an i5-2500k. Price vs. performance? I think not.

As for thuban, isn't it beating BD on the single threaded side of thing? That would make your argument invalid. (gotta double check on that)
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So 8 cores perform like 4 cores? That's absolutely pathetic and a main point everyone seems to be forgetting.

4 modules against 4 cores.

If these were 8 Thuban cores I'd say yes. But with Bulldozer modules? No. It just isn't that simple.
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Originally Posted by RussianHak;15316441 
Tell me Seven damn years is not enough????? mad.gif

AMD are a tiny company in comparison to Intel, who have at least ten times the money to spend on R&D and better engineers. That people even expect them to keep up with Intel is testament to how well they've actually done so far.
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Originally Posted by Xenthos;15316505 
4 modules against 4 cores.

If these were 8 Thuban cores I'd say yes. But with Bulldozer modules? No. It just isn't that simple.

It's funny because AMD is marketing it as the first 8-core processor. Not to mention, even being 4 modules and not cores, it is supposed to perform better than 4 cores in multitasking either way. It doesn't do a good job at it. Some great review pointed out that on average BD only performed 7-8% better than an i5-2500k in multi-threaded applications at stock settings. wth.gif
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Tell me Seven damn years is not enough????? mad.gif

The R&D budget Intel has is bigger than AMD's yearly net profit for the past several years (maybe even the past decade) combined lol ($5.7b)
AMD is working with considerably less dough.
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