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1) Ai Clock Twister:
I haven't checked yet, but I believe it's a fancy marketing name from Asus for DRAM Drive Strength.

2) DRAM Static Read Control along with Transaction Booster have a big effect in memory ( RAM ) bandwidth.
If you open up MemSet by FELIX, you'll see a setting named "Performance Level", in "general" it's a setting that has to do with some internal timings of the chipset ( the memory controller precisely ). The lower the Performance Level, the more RAM Bandwidth and better ( lower ) latency.

The Transaction booster works like an offset setting.
For example with Transaction Booster at "Enabled" with Boost Level at 0, and XXX FSB & RAM Divider you have 7 Performance Level ( e.g. )
If you set the Boost Level at 1 at the same settings, the performance level will be switched to 6 instead of 7.
At the same settings, if you set Transaction Booster to disabled and the Relax Level to 0 the performance level will get set to 8.
Relax level 1 will result in P.L. 9
etc

The performance level depends on the FSB Strap used, the DRAM Divider used and the Transaction Booster & DRAM Static Read Control settings.


yeah I know that's a lot of stuff.......

My ASUS board likes not being on Auto ( anything else seems fine????)
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It has to be something in the Bios...... Graphics driver failures (ie driver crashed and recovered / or just weirdness) is mostly an unstable setup issue so something here is just not quite right......
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Have you tried updating your BIOS?
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post #24 of 41
OP,
I've had faulty ram cause a similar issue. I thought it was a faulty video (onboard) because of the artifacting and crashing with Aero. But it turned out to be a bad stick of ram. So my question is, what is your ram running at with the overclock? It should be running at 800 for now. I was thinking that since you've been increasing the FSB (which aslo increases the ram speed at the same multiplier), you might have forgoten to lower the multi to compensate and bring it back down to 800.

And to see if it is the FSB which is causing the instability, set the CPU's multi to x6 to take it's overall OC out of the equation while testing.

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Originally Posted by aramil View Post
1) Ai Clock Twister:
I haven't checked yet, but I believe it's a fancy marketing name from Asus for DRAM Drive Strength.

2) DRAM Static Read Control along with Transaction Booster have a big effect in memory ( RAM ) bandwidth.
If you open up MemSet by FELIX, you'll see a setting named "Performance Level", in "general" it's a setting that has to do with some internal timings of the chipset ( the memory controller precisely ). The lower the Performance Level, the more RAM Bandwidth and better ( lower ) latency.

The Transaction booster works like an offset setting.
For example with Transaction Booster at "Enabled" with Boost Level at 0, and XXX FSB & RAM Divider you have 7 Performance Level ( e.g. )
If you set the Boost Level at 1 at the same settings, the performance level will be switched to 6 instead of 7.
At the same settings, if you set Transaction Booster to disabled and the Relax Level to 0 the performance level will get set to 8.
Relax level 1 will result in P.L. 9
etc

The performance level depends on the FSB Strap used, the DRAM Divider used and the Transaction Booster & DRAM Static Read Control settings.


yeah I know that's a lot of stuff.......

My ASUS board likes not being on Auto ( anything else seems fine????)
And this man knows his stuff! How lucky you are to have aramil here to help you.
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post #25 of 41
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@aramil - Are there any particular settings I should try? I tried setting AI Clock Twister to Lighter and Light, but couldn't POST. Also tried with AI Transaction Booster on manual with Performance Level up to 10 (highest is 31), with all options enabled, again couldn't POST. DRAM Static Control is Disabled. Looking at your post with the explanation of how Transaction Booster and DRAM Static Control interact, should I enable DRAM Static Control, and put a certain number in for Common Performance Level? It almost seems like there's some sort of calculation to come up with the number if I'm putting one in manually, at least that's if I'm understanding your explanation correctly.

@ - Eric I'm trying for a 400 FSB x 9 multiplier. I've left the RAM all at stock settings, but I did set them manually to 5-5-5-18, 1.8v, DDR2-800 (BIOS will only let me set it to 801? I didn't think that 1 MHz would hurt anything). I have run MemTest86 on the RAM at these settings, and checked out fine.

@Zeus - I'll check to see if I'm on the latest (I believe so), and update if needed.
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post #26 of 41
The Bios is using the 333Mhz strap on the NB so 801 is correct for the RAM on an ASUS MB (nothing to worry about)

As for a more in depth look at these settings see HERE
mainly i was thinking we could "relax" some of your system timings (ie RAM stress) to see if we can get a good pointer on your issue.


Just as an extra test pull out 2 of your four sticks of ram & try and see if you get the video problems again (ie 2 x 2Gb instead of 4 x 2Gb) i know some boards don't play well with 4 sticks of ram (ie limited OC)

as an extra i would try with one stick (and test) then add one more (and test) etc...

just trying to see exactly when the problem is being caused.

@ericeod: Google is always the answer (well sort of), and i looked all of this up when i started with my current board.
Edited by aramil - 10/17/11 at 8:34am
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post #27 of 41
I wrote up a guide for the X38/X48 chipset ASUS board, which has some info relating to this board (the NB voltages are as little different because the P45 is a smaller Die with less voltage), but the ram settings are similar. It might be worth checking out some of the ram info in the thread:

http://www.overclock.net/intel-mothe...rmula-p5e.html
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Well, looks like taking out 2 sticks of RAM did the trick. Fired up a couple of games and the video stuttering disappeared, and got great FPS. Going to run some more Small FFT and Blend tests in Prime 95 before jumping to any conclusions. Although, I already did 8 hours of Small FFT, and 8 hours Blend tests with all 4 sticks in at the same settings. Looks like I'll have to settle with 4GB of RAM until I get a new CPU/Mobo/RAM. Screenshots below of my settings. Any thing that I should change, let me know.

Also, one last thing. The RAM I have in currently is what's in my sig. I know I still have 3 working sticks of Corsair Dominator DDR2 1066 RAM. (I mentioned in earlier in the thread I had replaced them due to a stick dying, because I wanted to be safe with matching RAM, and the Dominator was no longer being manufactured). I know the Dominator RAM is faster than the XMS2. What settings would I need to tweak if I decide to throw that in?

RAM in now - Corsair XMS2 (2x2GB) DDR2 800, 1.8v, 5-5-5-18
Ram I could put in - Corsair Dominator (2x2GB) DDR2 1066, 2.1v, 5-5-5-15

Again, thanks for everyone's help!




Edited by Maxanna - 10/17/11 at 10:22am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxanna View Post
RAM in now - Corsair XMS2 (2x2GB) DDR2 800, 1.8v, 5-5-5-18
Ram I could put in - Corsair Dominator (2x2GB) DDR2 1066, 2.1v, 5-5-5-15

Again, thanks for everyone's help!
Your welcome!

as the RAM says 5-5-5-15 instead of 5-5-5-18 you have now (you will see it in your BIOS (photo 1)), & up the RAM voltage to 2.1 & test all over again. (you should be able to push a higher ram spd) but you may have a few tweaks to be rock solid stable. (nothing you should not be able to do)

Also (he says throwing a spanner in the works) with only 2 sticks you may find you can push your OC further (temps being o.k.) or you may not need so much Voltage.

Have you tested each stick with memtest86+ to see if one is faulty?
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post #30 of 41
Sounds like you just need to bump the vDimm to 1.9v or 2.0v to push 4 modules. That should do the trick. The issue can be that when running 4 modules vs 2, the vDimm needs to be increased to give enough power to all 4 dimm slots to run the modules safely.
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