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Hey OCN!

I'm sure at least some of you will remember my previous post a week or two ago asking for opinions on SSDs. I was asking between a bunch of sandforce ones and I eventually got talked into a Crucial M4 (surprise, surprise). The only problem is, I don't feel like spending $210 on a a hard drive and I'm getting restless with my new build being right around the corner (as in, being assembled this coming week). So here's the deal: Would you rather get a refurbished Corsair Force Sata II 120GB (link) or an OCZ Solid Sata III 120GB (link).

BEFORE you post, I am very aware of the problems with sandforce 3 controllers. Don't tell me to buy an M4, because trust me, I'd love to. I am also in university and don't want to spend over $200 on a hard drive that will be half price next year

Anyway, I guess these are the real questions. Do you think that the Sata 3 sandforce drives will be fixed any time soon?
If they are not fixed soon, is a Sata 2 refurb going to be more reliable? (Keep in mind that there's only a 30 day warranty)
Do you think that it's even worth it to get either of these drives? If not, I'm stickin' with my trusty Seagate mechanical drives.

Honestly, I don't care about speed here, so I'm just looking to get an SSD for the awesome seek times. Thanks in advance for the responses
    
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i would not buy a refurbished drive, from any source. go with any drive but that.
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I think you should be very careful buying refurbished goods as there is only a 30 warranty and the devices will often have another fault pop up and they know this. If you are going corsair i have the GT 120GB and it rocks.

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Thanks for the posts so far guys. Seems like there's some hate for the refurb haha. I think I saw it somewhere else with a 1 year warranty. Would that be any better?

In response to Ace, I'm pretty much trying to go as cheap as possible here. I saw the GT 90GB for I think $170, so I'm assuming that the 120 would be over $200. At that point I would just go for the M4. Thanks for the recommendation though
    
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Just remember that Corsair is second in line behind OCZ in Sandforce's partner list.

OCZ has gotten 5 firmware updates so far and as I noted in it's own thread, yet another is being readied for release.

If price is an issue, just get a Sata II ssd. At least you know it'll work.
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I would advise of going for SATAIII (not that I dont like refurbished but sata3 have remarkably better speed). And if I were a first time ssd buyer, I would buy something reliable. The money reason is understandable but you don't want to have a "what if" situation if something goes wrong. By the way you can always go for 64GB. My OS only take up 20GB and there is plenty space. By a second one when it's cheaper.
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post #7 of 10
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Well it seems that even despite the problems with the Sandforce controllers, people still seem to prefer them to Sata II drives (at least refurbs lol). I think I'll sit on it a bit and contemplate getting the Solid 3.

In response to the 64gb thing, I've thought about it, but it just isn't enough to support everything I use on a regular basis. I do a lot of audio recording, and my vsts (mainly Superior Drummer) alone take up a LOT of space. Not to mention the Adobe master suite and MS Office. I really think I'd be better off with a 120, and even that might be pushing it a little. Thanks for the suggestion though
    
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post #8 of 10
My OCZ Solid III is having no problems and i'm on whatever firmware it shipped with.
I would definitely go for the OCZ if i was you, because i've had bad experiences with refurbed products no matter what brand they were.
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I don't understand how your willing to spend $170 on a 90GB when you get a better price/GB on a better SSD with the 128GB M4. $30 is not that big of a deal, you get a much better SSD and more space. You saving $30 is not worth it at all.

And no, they won't be half off next year and SSD are not Hard Drives.
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Originally Posted by Monocog007 View Post
My OCZ Solid III is having no problems and i'm on whatever firmware it shipped with.
I would definitely go for the OCZ if i was you, because i've had bad experiences with refurbed products no matter what brand they were.
Alright, I should probably start quoting at this point lol. Thanks for the input. Nice to see somebody not having problems with them for a change

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Originally Posted by maximus20895 View Post
I don't understand how your willing to spend $170 on a 90GB when you get a better price/GB on a better SSD with the 128GB M4. $30 is not that big of a deal, you get a much better SSD and more space. You saving $30 is not worth it at all.

And no, they won't be half off next year and SSD are not Hard Drives.
Did you see the links? The solid is 120gb for $126 and the force is the same size for $117 or something. Trust me, if the case was $170 for a 90gb, I WOULD get the M4.
In regards to the half off comment, maybe the same drive won't be half off, but price/GB ratio will probably cut close to half. At the very least, they'll be 25% off. Still old technology usually doesn't fetch too high of a price. When 256gb drives are the norm, the 128s will go down in price. That's just how the world works.

By the way, sorry for calling it a hard drive once. I know that there's a difference, I just figured most people wouldn't nit pick over semantics.
    
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