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Holly (...)!

Thats insane :O, only thing that will hold us ( some of us ) back is the price.
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Originally Posted by Don Karnage;15326163 
Main reason sb maxes low is because of the 57 multi. Thankfully ib will have a 63 multi limit along with the return of Bclk overclocking. 3500K should easily do 5.2-5.5 on air

If that was true, then why is barely a page of SB results at ~5.7Ghz on hwbot? (Change to CPU Frequency) Even with LN2 it barely gets to 5.7Ghz most of the time...It hits a CPU architecture limit. (Pentium 3 hit one at ~1.3Ghz, Athlon64/Phenom I at ~3Ghz, any CPU that couldn't go any higher no matter the node, etc has hit one.)

An unlocked bclk and higher multi won't really help, unless 3D transistors change a lot more than we know.
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Originally Posted by Anthraxinsoup;15326856 
BLCK. Remember, BLCK chips can OC higher than SB-E with the right cooling ;D

Err, bclk won't make SB OC so much better, it'll barely help at all in fact...No CPU has OCed higher just using FSB/bclk/ref clock than multipliers when you don't have a limit.
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Why don't they stop integrating their useless integrated GPUs in K series processors? I bet it could shave about 15W-20W off that 77W TDP. I hope the power consumption improvements aren't just on the GPU side too.

Because they want their iGPUs to help with processing. Eg. Quick Sync.
    
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There are plenty of SB chips that just won't take higher multipliers, and some also have a cold bug, so really extreme cooling is out for those.

If Ivy does have an adjustable BCLK (and I am doubtful of this), it could well mean higher final OCs if multiplier limitations are getting in the way.
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what kind of improvement are we expecting here?
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So... my question is ... can we "safely" get a Z68 mobo now for example, and it will work with the IB, or they are planing on releasing new mobos?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blameless;15328546 
There are plenty of SB chips that just won't take higher multipliers, and some also have a cold bug, so really extreme cooling is out for those.

If Ivy does have an adjustable BCLK (and I am doubtful of this), it could well mean higher final OCs if multiplier limitations are getting in the way.

The main thing is that most hit their architectural limit around there, I think that's why Intel chose x57 instead of say, x60.
    
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The main power saving comes from the 3D transistors. Its great and all but Haswell will have many new circuitry power saving features that will allow it to save more. There is little benefit to upgrade to Ivy Bridge if you already have a Sandy Bridge, would be more like a side grade (slight upgrade).
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Man. How awesome is this? I wish the chips would come a little sooner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedros;15328734 
So... my question is ... can we "safely" get a Z68 mobo now for example, and it will work with the IB, or they are planing on releasing new mobos?

IMO it's a pretty safe time to buy a 1155 motherboard. I would recommend that you stick with Z68, and find a motherboard that is offering PCI-E 3.0 to all of the x16 slots.

They are releasing a new chipset series, but it looks like the main difference is that it'll have native USB 3.0 and PCI-E 3.0. The newer Z68 motherboards are now including PCI-E 3.0 so it doesn't look like the new chipsets will change much when it comes to motherboard performance.
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Ivy Bridge is backwards compatible with existing LGA-1155 motherboards, although there will be a new chipset for Ivy Bridge and new motherboards to enable some features (e.g. PCI Express 3.0, native USB 3.0). The new chipset family falls under the 7-series banner. We'll see Z77, Z75, H77, Q77, Q75 and B75 available at or around launch.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4830/intels-ivy-bridge-architecture-exposed
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looks like i'll be swapping out my 2600k for one of these chips next year biggrin.gif
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