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Sorry but why are people with overclocked sandy bridge systems upgrading. It seems to make little sense. Most people would wait for a gen or two before upgrading.

... but if you have money to burn.
Given Intel's recent history, there might not be a next gen on LGA1155 after Ivy if you're unlucky.
Some people might figure that they want to get the most out of the socket before it's time to move on to another, who knows?

It's not like it's super expensive to upgrade if you sell your old CPU.
 
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Sorry but why are people with overclocked sandy bridge systems upgrading. It seems to make little sense. Most people would wait for a gen or two before upgrading.

... but if you have money to burn.
The chips are going to be cheap so why wouldn't we?
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Sorry but why are people with overclocked sandy bridge systems upgrading. It seems to make little sense. Most people would wait for a gen or two before upgrading.

... but if you have money to burn.
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Poor Bulldozer...

I bet we'll see 5.5Ghz on air stable with safe TDP.
You know what gets me about Bulldozer? It's that Bulldozer managed to flunk horribly with stupid high overclocking power problems, while AMD apparently has the GPU power problem under wraps... XD
     
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IMO it's a pretty safe time to buy a 1155 motherboard. I would recommend that you stick with Z68, and find a motherboard that is offering PCI-E 3.0 to all of the x16 slots.

They are releasing a new chipset series, but it looks like the main difference is that it'll have native USB 3.0 and PCI-E 3.0. The newer Z68 motherboards are now including PCI-E 3.0 so it doesn't look like the new chipsets will change much when it comes to motherboard performance.
The chipset provides some PCIe lanes, those would become PCIe 3.0.

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I kinda agree.

If BD had lived up to expectations, wonder if we would have seen 95w tdp and much higher stock clocks on Ivy? I dunno. I guess it's better than nothing, especially if they keep up to their 60%+ improvement hints on the IGP.

Either way.. Haswell? That's what I want to see.
Well, I read somewhere on here that Intel haven't considered AMD competition for years now, so I doubt it.

Intel are trying to make x86 as efficient as possible to break into the mobile and tablet sectors, so I'd imagine their new chips are all going to be focused on that.
I know Intels mainly touched on power for Haswell so far.

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This is not entirely true. If it were an architectural limit then Sandy Bridge-E wouldn't be shipping with a 166Mhz bclk and a 57x multiplier(theoretically 9.5Ghz). This alludes to Sandy Bridge having a multiplier limitation which having a higher bclk will remedy.

If it were possible to over clock Sandy Bridge-M via bclk and multiplier and still hit a cold bug then I will concede that it's an architectural limit. Since there's only one factor that we know of that's preventing higher over clocks and that SBE is shipping with a significantly higher bclk, then I believe it's safe to conclude that Sandy Bridge-M was bclk limited.

If not, then how is Intel getting 166Mhz clock generator as opposed to 105Mhz?
It won't ship with that, but have it enabled iirc. (At least the multiplier)

Only a few chips even get to 5.7Ghz via multiplier OCing only, a few out of those get past 5.8 (which they should theoetically be able to do with a 105Mhz bclk) and this is on LN2, heat isn't a limit.

It's just like how I could set an FSB of 700 on my P43-DS3L board, it never would be stable or reach that speed but they enabled it anyway.

Although its possible something in the iGPU limits Sandy, whether its disabled or not and that the lack of iGPU in SB-e and new iGPU in IB fixes that.

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There are 1.4GHz Pentium IIIs (I own one) that overclock to 1.6GHz-1.7GHz at least, and by then, I believe they generally become more limited by the FSB of the board and/or RAM, or maybe they get a bit warm. It wasn't quite just fully architecturally limited.
It was getting there though, I wasn't sure on the exact numbers but most hit a limit somewhere and the entire reason Intel switched architectures over revamping the P3 again was that internal testing showed they'd hit a Mhz limit somewhere, and this was before anyone knew that IPC vs Mhz was important.
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Sorry but why are people with overclocked sandy bridge systems upgrading. It seems to make little sense. Most people would wait for a gen or two before upgrading.

... but if you have money to burn.
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Bulldozer is getting bulldozed on the Ivy bridge....
it got bulldozed by Deneb
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it got bulldozed by Deneb
hahaha
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