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Well, I know what I am getting next year. Ivy bridge hell yeah!!!!

It will not be much of a change in terms of TDP from my current dual core AMD CPU consuming 65 Watts.
Edited by Atham - 10/20/11 at 10:16am
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Poor Bulldozer...

I bet we'll see 5.5Ghz on air stable with safe TDP.
That is total conjecture on your part.
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Poor Bulldozer...

I bet we'll see 5.5Ghz on air stable with safe TDP.
I can't see Ivy over clocking that well. Sandy only goes up to 4.8 on air, maybe a little higher for some of the lucky few. I see no reason why Ivy wouldn't be able hit 5.0 - 5.2 GHz though. If it can hit the same clocks as my 2500k but using 15 - 20 watts less power no problem, then I know what my next upgrade will be after my RAM .
 
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I can't see Ivy over clocking that well. Sandy only goes up to 4.8 on air, maybe a little higher for some of the lucky few. I see no reason why Ivy wouldn't be able hit 5.0 - 5.2 GHz though. If it can hit the same clocks as my 2500k but using 15 - 20 watts less power no problem, then I know what my next upgrade will be after my RAM .
When we went from Conroe to Wolfdale we gained ~3% IPC and roughly a 7-800mhz higher OC (of course that varied from chip to chip, up and down the range).

I don't think it's unreasonable to expect ~5.2-5.5. Sort of in the middle of where you guys stand.
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Given Intel's recent history, there might not be a next gen on LGA1155 after Ivy if you're unlucky.
Some people might figure that they want to get the most out of the socket before it's time to move on to another, who knows?

It's not like it's super expensive to upgrade if you sell your old CPU.
For real, going from the current i5 to a new one may cost you around $50. Sounds like a plan to me.
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I'm more interested in additional details and information regarding the 3700K and it's performance in comparison to the 3960X/3930K. However 77 is a great TDP considering that the Mainstream variants of Sandy Bridge currently exist at 95W TDP.
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Double post.
Edited by NateN34 - 10/21/11 at 8:24pm
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Awesome! Same BIOS is out for REV 3.0 too.

Bring on a tasty 3700k!!! Guess I'll hold off on switching to a 2600 / 2700, and I'll just jump to a 3700k next year.
Wow, just checked and found out this mobo has it too!
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Wow, just checked and found out this mobo has it too!
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The only problem is SB has architectural limits on OCs, most SBs struggle to get too far above 5.5 on any cooling iirc, just like how the Athlon64 tended to hit a brick wall at 3-3.2Ghz or the P3 at 1.2Ghz iirc.

That said, Ivy is going to be the chip to get unless AMD fixes a lot of IPC issues with Piledriver.
I'm sorry, I know this is overclock.net, but why do you really need a higher overclock? I mean even at stock it destroys everything AMD has.

I would rather have them make a good chip that overclocks lower rather than AMD and make a cruddy chip that can overclock insanely hieght.
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I can't see Ivy over clocking that well. Sandy only goes up to 4.8 on air, maybe a little higher for some of the lucky few. I see no reason why Ivy wouldn't be able hit 5.0 - 5.2 GHz though. If it can hit the same clocks as my 2500k but using 15 - 20 watts less power no problem, then I know what my next upgrade will be after my RAM .
I see the average OC for Ivy being around 4.8 minimum, 5 normally, 5.2 for good chips and 5.4 for great chips/watercooling a good chip.


But the SB architecture hits a limit around 5.7Ghz, it's not the multi (Or you'd see a lot more SBs hit 5..8-5.9 with minor bclk tweaking) that really limits it IMO.

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When we went from Conroe to Wolfdale we gained ~3% IPC and roughly a 7-800mhz higher OC (of course that varied from chip to chip, up and down the range).

I don't think it's unreasonable to expect ~5.2-5.5. Sort of in the middle of where you guys stand.
700-800Mhz OC? No way man, heaps of Conroes got to 3.6-3.8 with a few (rare) ones hitting 4, Wolfdale was 4Ghz to 4.4Ghz for a great chip, so only 800Mhz if you compare some of the the worst Conroes to the best Wolfdales.

And its different, Conroe was limited by heat nine times out of ten, Wolfdale helped that with the 45nm node, SB hasn't got a heat limit, its got an architectural limit like the Athlon64. (Compare a 90nm A64 to a 65nm A64, the 65nm runs cooler but doesn't really OC any higher because they're both at the limit)
I see 5.2Ghz being the max average OC for IB, but with ~10% faster clock for clock speeds.

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I'm sorry, I know this is overclock.net, but why do you really need a higher overclock? I mean even at stock it destroys everything AMD has.

I would rather have them make a good chip that overclocks lower rather than AMD and make a cruddy chip that can overclock insanely hieght.
SB/IB does both due to the 32nm node putting out such little heat, Intel have done really well with it.

And in terms of IPC versus clock speed, I'm guessing Intel went a little towards clock speed for SB but kept IPC decent, so they could have low wattage but still fast chips.
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