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Hey,

I've had my system for about 4 years (haha as you can tell by my graphics card) and I have had no problems, I could run all games up to Crysis 2 on maxed out settings (though Crysis 2 was slow at times). About a week ago I upgraded from 2 giges of ram to 4 giges and from windows xp to windows 7 64bit. Yesterday while I was making dinner my power supply (Antec BP500U) seemed to have died, when i walked in i heard a flickering, crackling noise coming from the power supply and the computer seemed to to have limited power flowing through it as the fans were all running very slowly and the computer was not able to boot at all. I pulled apart the psu and it was full of dust, I also tried to locate the source of the noise once its cover was off, it wasnt the fan it was coming from either the yellow thing in the middle of the first picture of the site below (the site didnt let me use there insert there picture), or the silver bar thing under it.
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Antec-Basiq-BP500U-Power-Supply-Review/792/2
I don't really know if this was a result of adding new ram, installing windows 7, or simply a coincidence. About 3 hours before the psu crashed i installed these drivers withing rebooting "Intel(R) 4 Series Chipset Processor to I/O Controller - 2E30", i don't know if that could have been the cause of the problem either.

After i pulled apart the psu and tried to locate the problem, i switched it with another 550W psu i had in another computer, im not sure the brand of this psu as i didnt look and at the moment its orinentated such that i cant see the label, and i dont want to disturb it.

Once booted up with the new psu windows said it installed some drivers. A little later i went into bad company 2 to try play, for some reason it installed direct x and thought that it was the first time i had played it which was weird.
I loaded up a game, it loaded as fast as it used to but when i spawned the lag was horrendous, i literally couldnt turn haha.

Back to a week ago, I had tested bad company 2 right after i installed windows and the new ram and it was 100% on max settings. After i tested it i updated my bios, which gave me a "CMOS Check sum bad load default settings" and i never tested the game after that. So it could be due to the bios change, i've reflashed the bios with 2 different versions and i get the same thing, i try loading up the performance settings and also get the same thing.

I've also tried reinstalling a clean copy of the nvidia drivers, but uninstalling the graphics card, removing the drivers, then sweeping the drivers using driver sweeper and reinstalling the drivers again. No luck

Sorry this post is so long, i tried to be as detailed as i could incase one of the steps i made caused the error. I really dont want to have to buy a new PSU anddd a new graphics card, i going to get a new computer next year, so if i have to buy both components i may aswell just get it now.

Does anyone know why this lag could be happening? Could it be the problem with the bios? The power supply not being sufficient, even though its larger?

Another subtle detail i could add is that i used speedfan and Rivatuner to see gpu temperatures (before i noticed the lag) and on the load of rivatuner it asked afew things, and i unticked both boxes, but thats all, i don't think anything got touched.


Thanks alot in advance
Edited by Daniiel - 10/15/11 at 4:51pm
post #2 of 11
That yellow thing is the main transformer (the part that actually converts the 120v to 12v, 5v, 3.3v). If the issues were coming from there your PSU is pretty much shot. Anyway the slowly dying PSU may have messed up your CMOS hopefully just settings but you may need to replace the CMOS chip it will be a little 8 pin chip in a socket. also it could have messed up windows, at least the stuff pertaining to the card because GPUs freak out when they don't get enough power. All this being said it could just be not getting enough power from that PSU. the 12 volt amperage is the important part not the wattage.
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post #3 of 11
Thread Starter 
I checked the outputs in the bios

I got

Vcore 1.272 V
+3.30 3.28 V
+5.00 5.208 V
+12.00 11.932 V

Should i reflash the bios, load bios defaults, turn off, reset the CMOS, then boot up again and select preformance settings?
Whenever i select to apply preformance settings the computer shuts down when i click save and reboot, instead of the usual thing it does
Edited by Daniiel - 10/15/11 at 5:22pm
post #4 of 11
what's probably happening is your cmos is freaking out... power pc down, pull plug, press and hold power button for 5 - 10 seconds and pull battery, wait a few more seconds and replace battery. plug everything back in and reset your bios options. load os and a game, test it out... if you still have trouble, check back

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post #5 of 11
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Thanks Hardheadedmurphy,

No luck, I left the battery out for afew minutes and cleaned out my gpu of dust a little more

I noticed in the bios under "Video card controller" its set to PCI, not PCI-express, and the PCI power was set to disable.
I changed both settings to PCI-E and enabled, but it didnt have an effect,
When I reset the CMOS the settings were back to PCI and Disabled

I'm going to try reformatting now,

Could my graphics card be buggered?

there were no signs of burns, shorts or anything on the card it self, it seems fine


Edit,

Just checked, the power supply im using at the moment is a Powercase phkpow550080mm

+3.3v =25A, +5v=20A +12V = 30A, -12V = 0.5A and +5VSB = 2.5A
Edited by Daniiel - 10/15/11 at 7:28pm
post #6 of 11
Thread Starter 
Format didnt help,

Very lame

I noticed on the power supply i use to have it had two 12V outputs and the one im using now only has 1, what does that mean?

Could that effect things?

Im probably going to have to just get a new computer
post #7 of 11
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I have a new idea now,

I just noticed there was a plug an socket on my gpu that from i can never remeber being actually plugged it

but say it was, once apon a time
and i unplugged it when i put in new ram,
when i installed new ram and didnt plug the gpu back in, would the gpu have drained more power from the psu through the mother board? could that have caused it to break, because it was drawing more current through the motherboard rather then through the independant power cable?
this temp psu doesnt have a 6pin socket so i cant test,
the weird thing is, i played battlefield and itw as 100% fine without the thing plugged in (after i installed the ram and windows 7)
could that have just been a fluke? the beginings of the current sap from the gpu?
post #8 of 11
You might want to invest in a PSU tester so you can make sure your PSU is putting out what it should.
post #9 of 11
Thread Starter 
I just baught a 4pin to 6 pin adapter, it should arrive in afew days so i'll plug that up to my graphics card and hopefully itll run normally.

Its strange that it ran normally with the possibility the supplementary power plug wasnt plugged in.
post #10 of 11
Thread Starter 
The adapter fixed the problem,
I read my card doesnt require the supp power, but for some reason with this power supply it does

Now to buy a new PSU.

If i eventually upgrade to a GTX560 and a intel 2 quad q9550 (requires about 140 more power then my current sett up)

should i buy a Corsair TX-650 V2, or a 750 for 40 dollars more?
Edited by Daniiel - 10/16/11 at 10:13pm
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