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ASUS P8Z68-V PRO vs ASRock Z68 Extreme4 Gen3

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My system bit are going to be:

CPU: i5-2500k
RAM: Vengeance™ Low Profile — 8GB Dual Channel DDR3 Memory Kit (CML8GX3M2A1600C9)
PSU: OCZ Z Series 1000 W Power Supply Review
GPU: IGP on the i5-2500k for now, SLI 560TI 2GB later
HSF: cooler master Hyper 212+
MB: ?
CASE: ?
LCD: ?

Want an opinion on how the ASUS P8Z68-V PRO differs from the ASRock Z68 Extreme4 Gen3:

1. Reliability of IGP support on the i5-2500k on any OS (not only Win 7 for example)
2. USB3 support
3. Dual monitor support without GPU
4. CPU fan speed control via PWM (I think the HSF uses PWM?)
5. Tethered internet (say dual + backup ethernet)
6. Strong (Fast & Reliable) SLI support to enable me to play BF3 or DOOM4. Definitely Rage, AA, Crysis 2
I would like to run 2GB nVidia GPUs
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I am stuck on deciding between ASUS P8Z68-V PRO vs ASRock Z68 Extreme4 Gen3.

Fry's does not stock ASRock and Microcenter is OOS on the ASRock Z68 Extreme4 Gen3. I would prefer buying the CPU and MB from them rather than NewEgg(ease of replacement).

Four questions:

1. As I will not be buying a separate RAID card, I was wondering how reliabile is the onboard RAID on ASUS P8Z68-V PRO vs ASRock Z68 Extreme4 Gen3?

I am not interested very much in the performance deviations between the two boards, but reliability under RAID 0 is very important.

The HDD I will be using are a pair of the $60 SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache (are the Hitachi 1TB better?)

These drives will have 4+ OS and programs and hence, I guess read performance is more critical.

However, I do not want to be busy rebuilding RAID volumes every few months, unless the HDD itself is at fault (I don't want the point of failure to be the onboard controller)

To summarize, my question is: which onboard RAID is more of a toy controller?

2. I don't recollect which, but one of these MBs have a limitation of not being able to use SRT when RAID is being used.

Which one is it?

3. In your experience, is the MTTF of 64GB SSDs comparable to the MTTF of the RAID 0 volume I would have on the chosen MB, or are the SSDs better in reliability?

4. What was that site that shows you the price of your components from various vendors. I am not talking about pricewatch.
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Both boards' RAID controller comes from Z68 itself. You are dealing with the same RAID controller from both boards.
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Windows 7 Professional x64 (Host) Crunchbang Linux x64 (Guest) HP 2311x HP PS/2 Keyboard 
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Crucial M4 128 GB WD Caviar Blue 1 TB Lite-on DVD Burner Thermalright Venomous X 
OSOSMonitorKeyboard
Windows 7 Professional x64 (Host) Crunchbang Linux x64 (Guest) HP 2311x HP PS/2 Keyboard 
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Rosewill Capstone 450 W Rosewill Challenger Logitech M570 ASUS Xonar D1 
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Originally Posted by KamalS View Post
I am stuck on deciding between ASUS P8Z68-V PRO vs ASRock Z68 Extreme4 Gen3.

Fry's does not stock ASRock and Microcenter is OOS on the ASRock Z68 Extreme4 Gen3. I would prefer buying the CPU and MB from them rather than NewEgg(ease of replacement).

Four questions:

1. As I will not be buying a separate RAID card, I was wondering how reliabile is the onboard RAID on ASUS P8Z68-V PRO vs ASRock Z68 Extreme4 Gen3?

I am not interested very much in the performance deviations between the two boards, but reliability under RAID 0 is very important.




The HDD I will be using are a pair of the $60 SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache (are the Hitachi 1TB better?)

These drives will have 4+ OS and programs and hence, I guess read performance is more critical.

However, I do not want to be busy rebuilding RAID volumes every few months, unless the HDD itself is at fault (I don't want the point of failure to be the onboard controller)

To summarize, my question is: which onboard RAID is more of a toy controller?

2. I don't recollect which, but one of these MBs have a limitation of not being able to use SRT when RAID is being used.

Which one is it?

3. In your experience, is the MTTF of 64GB SSDs comparable to the MTTF of the RAID 0 volume I would have on the chosen MB, or are the SSDs better in reliability?

4. What was that site that shows you the price of your components from various vendors. I am not talking about pricewatch.


Well from just coming from a rig that at on-board raid and god i hated it with every ounce of my being! , and i have 3 Samsung F3's in Raid 0. I can firmly tell you that it is extremely not worth time and effort of RAID, you will see a very minimal difference in performance with HDD's. And with an on-board raid controller it will be even less noticeable.

Take my advise and get a SSD for your OS, then get that Samsung for your data storage.

MOBO - The Asrock is a solid board, but the Asus is much better when it comes to overclocking, so if you plan on overclocking i would go with the asus, but if not then just stick with the ASrock.

GPU - Dont SLI, Just get a single powerful GPU.

PSU - Holy moly bring that sucker down, 1000w is way overkill, a 750w would be enough for 2 GTX 580's in SLI. So if you plan on getting only a single GPU then get a 650w PSU, if you plan on SLI in the future then a 750w should do you fine.
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Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Crucial M4 64GB, Samsung F3 1 TB Asus Burner Noctua DH-14 Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Qnix II 27" @ 96Hz, Hanns-G 28", Dell 19" Corsair K70  Corsair 750W TXv2 NZXT Phantom 
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