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Lately I've been planning on upgrading my main drive to an SSD. I had been planning on picking up a Vertex 3, but after some research I've come to the conclusion that unfortunately a quite high percentage of these great performing drives are confirmed to cause BSOD errors. As such, I've decided against purchasing an OCZ SSD.

Looking into some alternatives, I see that the Crucial M4 is a popular choice. The read times are about the same (~415MBps, but about a hundred MBps under the V3 frown.gif), while the write speeds are abysmally slow compared to the V3 (~175 vs ~500). Shouldn't people be making a bigger deal about this? How come a "performance" SSD has such low write speeds?

The Corsair Force 3 drives seem fantastic, at 550MBps read/510MBps write, and a great price at around $175. But I don't see too many people talking about them, at least compared to the M4 and some other Intel SSDs. And the Intels, by the way, seem incredibly slow in both read and write speeds for their own popularity.

Judging by all of this, I feel like I'd be a fool not to pick up a Corsair. But the name hasn't been thrown around too much compared to these other brands, so I'm curious that I might be missing something. What does OCN think about the current state of SSDs on the market?
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Stay away from SSDs using the Sandforce-2281 controller. I believe that drive is one of them.
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Samsung 830, speed plus reliability.
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post #4 of 11
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Originally Posted by Redwoodz;15327385 
Samsung 830, speed plus reliability.

Benchmarks look enticing... Can't seem to find this model on Newegg though, is it not listed there?
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You cant find it because it is not released yet, and I would not jump on it until you see some real world tests. It looks pretty good and they are using their own NAND, Firmware and controller so we will see how it goes. IF they deliver a reliable controller and prices around Crucial and Intels prices then with the performance they are claiming it could be the go to SSD. Time will tell. For the time being your choice for a fast reliable SSD are Crucial or Intel.
Edited by Topgearfan - 10/16/11 at 1:20am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Topgearfan;15327599 
You cant find it because it is not released yet, and I would not jump on it until you see some real world tests. It looks pretty good and they are using their own NAND, Firmware and controller so we will see how it goes. IF they deliver a reliable controller and prices around Crucial and Intels prices then with the performance they are claiming it could be the go to SSD. Time will tell. For the time being your choice for a fast reliable SSD are Crucial or Intel.

Should be hitting retail any day now. Samsung has been making SSD's for years. The 470 series is very solid (just a few initial firmware updater problems),you can be sure the 830 will be more of the same.
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830 looks great! Can't wait for it to hit the market... sometime. The Anandtech review pegged it as "October", so I hope that's sooner rather than later! tongue.gif
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Quote:
Originally Posted by moonslug;15327312 
What does OCN think about the current state of SSDs on the market?

I think Newegg's Friday $75 64gb Crucial M4 and Fry's still ongoing Corsair Force3 90gb for $99 are the two bargains right now.
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Originally Posted by moonslug;15327312 
Lately I've been planning on upgrading my main drive to an SSD. I had been planning on picking up a Vertex 3, but after some research I've come to the conclusion that unfortunately a quite high percentage of these great performing drives are confirmed to cause BSOD errors. As such, I've decided against purchasing an OCZ SSD.?

Good choice. I have a Vertex 3 and will never purchase OCZ again.
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Looking into some alternatives, I see that the Crucial M4 is a popular choice. The read times are about the same (~415MBps, but about a hundred MBps under the V3 frown.gif), while the write speeds are abysmally slow compared to the V3 (~175 vs ~500). Shouldn't people be making a bigger deal about this? How come a "performance" SSD has such low write speeds?

The M4 just got a firmware update pushing it's sequential read to 500 as well. Keep in mind that sequential numbers are used so infrequently that it's really only something seen in benchmarks.

As for the write speed, same thing applies. Keep in mind that when incompressible data is used, the sequential write on the sandforce drives drop to less than half of that 500. The M4 can write both types of data exactly the same. And how often do you thin you're writing anyway? Beyond Windows install and program install, not very much.

And your also looking at the wrong numbers in regards to ssd speed anyway. Look at the review in my sig. 4k numbers are your speed.
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The Corsair Force 3 drives seem fantastic, at 550MBps read/510MBps write, and a great price at around $175. But I don't see too many people talking about them, at least compared to the M4 and some other Intel SSDs. And the Intels, by the way, seem incredibly slow in both read and write speeds for their own popularity. Judging by all of this, I feel like I'd be a fool not to pick up a Corsair. But the name hasn't been thrown around too much compared to these other brands, so I'm curious that I might be missing something. What does OCN think about the current state of SSDs on the market?

The Corsair Force 3 suffers from the exact same problems as the OCZ drives. They are both Sandforce 2281 powered hence the problems.

Many here on OCN know what makes a fast ssd. That's why so many here have the M4 as their pick. Don't be fooled by benchmark numbers of 500/500 when you'll never see that in real usage.
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I forgot to mention as well, your x58 board doesn't have a real Sata 6gb/s connection. The Marvell 6gb/s is really capped at 5gb/s so whatever sequential numbers is advertised you'd never get close to anyway.
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