Originally Posted by Am*;15329227
I still think they should keep their GPUs on the motherboard for people who want to use them (fair enough if you do). I bet the current SB chips would overclock a lot further without IGPs and would fit within a lower thermal envelope; and besides, most people will use discrete cards anyway with their 2500K/2600K.
Doesn't make any sense for intel to do that, its far more cost effective for everyone involved
to include the GPU into the CPU. Sure, its mildly annoying for us enthusiasts when we can't see immediate use or value from it, but at the end of the day its ultimately moot as intel's current APUs have more than delivered, and I really don't think cutting out the GPU would make much of a difference overall.
although for the most part I agree about the K series, if Intel can make a Xeon SandyB without the GPU, why not with the K series?
Originally Posted by Mr.Eiht;15329654
I will never understan that on-die GPU stuff. Ok for this and that. Sure.
But since most of the OCN member have a "real" GPU (inside a g.card) they don´t use the GPU inside their SB.
(Ok now we have z68 and things might change a bit).
But instead of this GPU I prefere more cores.
So the space that is occupied but that on-die GPU should be populated by a CPU core.
I am glad that there is no GPU stuff involved in SB-Es
do you not understand that OCN members are in the vast minority? It might not feel that way with so many people here, but its true
we don't need the GPU included, but a majority do, and if things go according to plan with GPGPUs and APUs in general, the integrated GPUs will serve far more important roles for everyday processing in the near future
also, to get an idea of just how much space intel is allocating to the GPU, there is a Xeon SandyBridge on par with the 2600 but without the GPU, and is allocated an 80W TDP, so that's 15W for the GPU to hit 95W TDP for the 2600, that's not even enough to squeeze in an extra core.
in the meantime if it really bothers you that much you can always put your money where your mouth is and pony up for s2011