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The biggest boon of real watercooling is GPU cooling. I never see my 470's go above 50c and it is so quiet, I have to look into my case at my fans to see if my computer is on.
    
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Go for a custom loop. The H100 is only as good as some mid-range air coolers and you can beat it for $20. I would buy an EK 360 rad kit. They're not terribly complicated to install, the only thing that you'll even need to do is cut the tubing and mount the pump/res.
 
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I have both the H100 and the rx360 kit right now and I'll be posting a comparison of temps along with various upgrades when I'm done with my testing in a few weeks.

As others have said you'll need to replace the tubing. If you plan to add more blocks later though the pump won't keep up. You could go fully custom:

raystorm ~90
rx360 - 95
3 ap15's - 45
ddc1 from the for sale section - 35
tubing - 20
small res - 25
barbs - 10
clamps - 6

would be around your 350 budget and it would be easy to expand on later
Sounds good, this guy selling me his 470 GTX also has a block for it O_O I wonder how much he'll sell me them both for!

Then I could buy another one for my 470, in use right now, and then I'd have to do a custom loop.

Pretty overwhelmed, and I'm thinking my GPU OC would be very important to me - so adding them into the mix would be a great idea. I just lack so much knowledge, and I'm not much of a handyman..but I'm so interested & willing to learn. I'm open minded and open to suggestions.

He wants $165 for his 470 GTX, and I believe he was selling it all together for $250 a long time ago. I don't want to disrespect him, because he dropped his price from $180 + shipping to $165 shipped. What's the best route for me, because I need to pay him tomorrow & need this thought of quickly

I have to justify paying for two blocks, and adding a more expensive WC loop into the picture & on top of all this - I'm doubting if I'm capable of doing it (but it's not out of negativity, it's out of fear of a spill).

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The biggest boon of real watercooling is GPU cooling. I never see my 470's go above 50c and it is so quiet, I have to look into my case at my fans to see if my computer is on.
Yeah, I figured OCing my GPU is just as important as my CPU - but I didn't know how the space in my HAF932 would be sufficient enough (but then again, I don't know what's going into the case if I am doing a custom loop).

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Go for a custom loop. The H100 is only as good as some mid-range air coolers and you can beat it for $20. I would buy an EK 360 rad kit. They're not terribly complicated to install, the only thing that you'll even need to do is cut the tubing and mount the pump/res.
Custom sounds good
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Sounds good, this guy selling me his 470 GTX also has a block for it O_O I wonder how much he'll sell me them both for!

Then I could buy another one for my 470, in use right now, and then I'd have to do a custom loop.

Pretty overwhelmed, and I'm thinking my GPU OC would be very important to me - so adding them into the mix would be a great idea. I just lack so much knowledge, and I'm not much of a handyman..but I'm so interested & willing to learn. I'm open minded and open to suggestions.

He wants $165 for his 470 GTX, and I believe he was selling it all together for $250 a long time ago. I don't want to disrespect him, because he dropped his price from $180 + shipping to $165 shipped. What's the best route for me, because I need to pay him tomorrow & need this thought of quickly

I have to justify paying for two blocks, and adding a more expensive WC loop into the picture & on top of all this - I'm doubting if I'm capable of doing it (but it's not out of negativity, it's out of fear of a spill).



Yeah, I figured OCing my GPU is just as important as my CPU - but I didn't know how the space in my HAF932 would be sufficient enough (but then again, I don't know what's going into the case if I am doing a custom loop).



Custom sounds good
I would stick to one GTX 470 for now. Your CPU will be bottlenecking the cards bad if you go SLI. Look into upgrading the CPU before going SLI.

Cheers.
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I would stick to one GTX 470 for now. Your CPU will be bottlenecking the cards bad if you go SLI. Look into upgrading the CPU before going SLI.

Cheers.
Much appreciated on the advice AMC!

In regards to that, I'm waiting until Black Friday / Cyber Monday to score a deal on a i5-2500k or i7-2600k. I'm also inquiring about a slightly used HX1000. I'm sure it's overkill, but at least I won't have to upgrade for a while (at least, I'd hope not).

I'm just torn between cooling, it seems like I should be thinking about cooling my 470s. It's just that the thought of the H100 not being a real WC loop that I assembled brought me over to this side. I never considered how I would mainly use my future rig to game, and how two of the 470s probably release more heat than quadfire 5700s (I gave up two reference 5770s for my slightly used 470 - and the switch was good solutionfor the BC2 flickering issue I had).

I'm in the mood to do a halloweenish theme. I manned up, and dissembled my HAF 932 as much as I could without removing rivets. I primed it, and going for a second coat. I figured I would splash some UV paint on the gloss black paint (that I would use after priming), and hopefully the reflectiveness of the paint will contrast the glow nicely!

I'm assuming UV reactive coolant isn't a super smart option compared to going with distilled water, but I suppose I've always "digged" the glow-in-the-dark look.

I would really like to know before I sleep, if I should consider buying the 470 owners cooling block (if that's what it's called) as well. Hmm.
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Assuming the waterblock for the video card is full cover, which usually works for that specific model so if you upgrade to newer card that block can not be re-used. So investing in the GTX470 at this time kind of late, unless you still to plan to use GTX470/SLI in the next 2 to 3 years to actually make it worth.

Universal video card block is good more than 1 specific model, however once you doing SLI it does have the features that the full cover waterblock has to offer which is running them parallel. Universal video card block probably better for a single card configuration and it doesn't cool all the components on the card.

Ultimately the decision is your to make.
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Assuming the waterblock for the video card is full cover, which usually works for that specific model so if you upgrade to newer card that block can not be re-used. So investing in the GTX470 at this time kind of late, unless you still to plan to use GTX470/SLI in the next 2 to 3 years to actually make it worth.

Universal video card block is good more than 1 specific model, however once you doing SLI it does have the features that the full cover waterblock has to offer which is running them parallel. Universal video card block probably better for a single card configuration and it doesn't cool all the components on the card.

Ultimately the decision is your to make.
Thanks +Rep

I already payed for the 470, just waiting for the seller's response about receiving the money. So I will be using the SLI setup, until I feel a 3.0 GPU is needed (not for at least two years, I hope!).

I don't think I'll watercool them yet, because I want to cherish their stock coolers for awhile.

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I need to know of a reservoir that will be a great use in my HAF 932. I wanted the XSPC double bay Res (and I know it's a tight fit) but I heard the hole on my case (top) is on the opposite side of the hole on the res. Now, I'm not sure what the hole is for but I'd like to say I'm going for a custom loop!

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How much of a temp difference will there be from a EK HF Supreme w/ Indigo Extreme TIM, GT240 Stealth and Asaka Viper fans vs a H100 on an i7 2600k? How much higher would you be able to overclock it.
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I have an h100 with 2 GT-AP15. It keeps my i7 920 4ghz 1.2v in mid 60s under load at 25 degree ambient. I could easily push it up to 4.2ghz and still have safe temps. Its very quiet.

I could have bought a 240 or 360 kit for almost the same price and had better cooling. I didnt want to have to maintain my loop or worry about leaks so I got the H100 + AP-15s.

Get the rasa 240/360 kit if you want the best cooling. Get the h100 if you want something safe, quiet and respectfully cool.
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I need to know of a reservoir that will be a great use in my HAF 932. I wanted the XSPC double bay Res (and I know it's a tight fit) but I heard the hole on my case (top) is on the opposite side of the hole on the res. Now, I'm not sure what the hole is for but I'd like to say I'm going for a custom loop!
The hole's for...filling. They obviously can't accommodate all reservoirs!

You'll be fine using some spare tubing through the hole to fill the reservoir. I did it in my HAF 932.

My RX360 fit into the top of my old HAF 932 easily. Any 360 radiator will fit up there, any bigger and it won't fit without modding.

Furthermore, I used the XSPC Double Bay reservoir in my old 932 too (I had exactly the same water cooling setup as I do in my sig rig) and everything fit perfectly. Just leave a drive-bay space between the top hole and the reservoir so you can fit some tubing into it with a funnel attached to the top of it in order to fill the reservoir.
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