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post #1 of 54
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With the introduction of H100,

I notice most tower air cooler aren't that attractive anymore..

some of the reasons are:

1) They are about the same price(basically if you are willing to spend on high end stuff money is not an issue)

2) High end tower cooler usually have space constrain.

3) High end tower cooler adds a lot of weight on the CPU.

4) If you replace the stock fan on H100 it will perform much quieter and cooler too(Example GT AP-15)

5) Is easier to install a shroud on H100 ( improve performance and noise)

6) Air Cooler might degrade overtime due to oxidation, H100 doesn't have oxidation issue and comes with 5 years warranty.

7) H100 comes with 5 years warranty

This topic is for debate, everyone is free to provide their own option!
Edited by seesee - 10/16/11 at 4:00pm
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post #2 of 54
Just my case:

1) Here an Archon costs about 50€, and the H100, more than 100€.
2) I don't have space for the H100 radiator, I would need to mod my case. However, a Silver Arrow or Archon fits nicely.
3) Agree.
4) Same for air coolers.
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post #3 of 54
Nah, complete nonsene.

-At the same noise level, most high end Air Coolers outperform the H100 pretty drastically. So basically for everybody who cares about noise it's not the best choice. period.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coo...0_5.html#sect0
(at the same noiselevel the archon performs more than 10K better)
-Not everybody has the space for a dual rad either...
-where i'm from the Silver Arrow cost ~50€ and the H100 is around 90€
-weight on the cpu is not an issue, never did i ever hear or see someone who broke his motherboard because of the heatsink
Edited by Elohim - 10/16/11 at 9:33am
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Not all cases have mounting for dual radiators.. Also some people are completely paranoid of leakage.
    
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No... just no.
The H100 is overpriced and not all cases have space for it.
    
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Originally Posted by seesee View Post
1) They are about the same price(basically if you are willing to spend on high end stuff money is not an issue)

2) High end tower cooler usually have space constrain.

3) High end tower cooler adds a lot of weight on the CPU.

4) If you replace the stock fan on H100 it will perform much quieter and cooler too(Example GT AP-15)

5) Is easier to install a shroud on H100 ( improve performance and noise)
My answer to your points. I honestly have to disagree with you.

1. The H100 is currently $50 more expensive than the Silver Arrow.

2. The H100 has the space constraint of requiring two 120mm fan slots next to each other. For instance, my excellent mid-tower PC-K62 does not have t hat.

3. Weight on the CPU has absolutely no ill effect. Having a problem with weight on the CPU is an irrational fear.

4. GT AP-15s are running about $20 a pop excluding shipping. Four AP-15s will put the H100 at the $200 price point where you might as well use real watercooling. And if you're going to include the use of aftermarket fans for the H100, it's fair to add them to the twin-tower heatsinks. At which point the H100 still doesn't perform as well at the same noise level while costing more.

5. What makes shrouds hard to install?

I completely disagree with you and think the H100 is currently not worth it. Now, I have been eyeing the H60 to put into a mini-ITX cube where there's a real space constraint. Closed loop cooling is just picking up and I expect the performance to eventually be undisputed, but right now it's just not true.
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post #7 of 54
This is just a better looking version of the Swiftech 220 kit
seal liquid cooling systems are not new, my first adventure in water cooling was with a Coolermaster Aquacool R80 mini, it kept my P4(630) cool at 3.6ghz, this was with an Aluminum 80mm rad. Coolermaster also had a 120mm version of the Aquacool

Swiftech has been making kits for a long time as well, although they are not sealed as the Corsair kits are.

Water cooling is not for everyone or the faint of heart

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post #8 of 54
Dont benchmarks show close looped cooler achieve slightly worse performance than high end air with almost twice the dba? They are cool, but i think another year for the technology to kill of air cooler which i agree, their days are numbered, thankfully.
    
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post #9 of 54
1) The H100 is double the price of a SA or D14 or whatever, performs worse and is way louder than the heatsinks too

2) Most modern cases fit it, ram too

3) Who cares? doesn't affect CPU one bit

4) LOL...same goes for any heatsink, not to mention that good fans jack up the price quite a bit, and the high end air coolers already come with top-spec fans like the TY-140

5) Your point?
Edited by somebodysb2 - 10/16/11 at 9:56am
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post #10 of 54
air coolers will never die. there are some serious bang for buck air coolers out there. if you're gonna pop for an h100, for just a few dollars more you can TRULY watercool your cpu and make that h100 look silly. besides, most gamers use a mid tower case anyway. this post is way off base.
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