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Originally Posted by sausageson;15333126 
Nobody earns a free pass, just proves valveboys are refusing to judge valve on their current content and always refer to HL1, HL2, CS, while ignoring crap like L4D.

What is wrong with L4D? It is awesome game. So is L4D2.
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Only game i liked from valve was l4d
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I just did a Google search and cannot find the article. It was an official interview with Gabe and he said that his employees were working on Left 4 Dead and Portal 2 because that is what they wanted to work on, apparently no one is motivated to work on HL3 and Gabe doesn't like to tell his employees what to do as long as they pump out creative games.

I appreciate that I cannot substantiate any of that, but I'm sure if you search hard enough you will be able to find the article. I have no reason to lie, you have my word.
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This is one of those times I hate being a gamer.

If you look at storyline, gameplay and fun.. Valve games are absolutely amazing. I don't know any company that has put out as many high quality games as valve.

Whether they officially call it "Source Engine 2" or they just leave it "Source Engine" really shouldn't be the issue here..

Yes, I do at times wish valve would improve the graphics, however I don't ever go "OH MY GOD THIS GAME IS HORRIBLE!" I go. "Man, just imagine if other games had this level of detail put into story, gameplay and fun factor along with the graphics of the bigger hitting games."

However, it does bother me that people are *always* going to nit-pick and never be happy. Case in point. Iphone 4s. People are mad because it isn't "iphone 5".. Literally.. people think because it isn't "iphone 5" it is somehow inferior to what it would be if it came out with the "iphone 5" name.

Valve could tweak the Source Engine until you couldn't tell you weren't looking through a live feed into an alternate reality from your monitor. And people would *still* be disappointed because they didn't call it "source engine 2" and they would think "oh man, battlefield has better graphics source engine is so old!"

There will always be something to gripe about. My friend gripes "man valve is so lazy, they are still using source engine! Oh my god portal 2 isn't even worth 15$ to me! Man, they still haven't released half life 3!"

And he is entitled to his opinion just like everyone else.

However, if any of you *seriously* had a problem with valve, I invite you to do the same thing I do when I have a problem with a company.

I neither buy, nor pirate their games.

As for me, I love valve and think their games are worth the money. They can do what they are doing till it doesn't work for them anymore as far as I am concerned.
That gameplay opinion is subjective, I never liked the gameplay of any valve other than portal, as for story the last time a valve game had a good story or any story at all was HL2 and its episodes. In fact I couldnt stand the gameplay of HL2 but I wanted to push on for the story, I dont think I ever made it. However post episode 2 what valve games have good stories?

There is one thing I do agree with you 100%, if you dont like a game, dont buy it, just cause you think its a crappy game doesnt give you the right to pirate it, if its bad, why would you want to play it anyways?
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Nobody earns a free pass, just proves valveboys are refusing to judge valve on their current content and always refer to HL1, HL2, CS, while ignoring crap like L4D.
What was wrong with L4D? I haven't played it that much but it was quite enjoyable.

Although, I do agree that no one earns a free pass. However, Valve has made considerable updates to the Source engine. Something that hasn't really been done to the IW engine. Don't get me wrong, though.. I do enjoy playing CoD.
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Its funny how people on this site rip COD apart for this very reason, yet valve is allowed a free pass. While the source engine has aged well, it does look obsolete compared to newer engines today.
obsolete? have you played L4D2 maxed out? that game is gorgeous.

Portal 2 is no graphical slouch either.
    
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Interesting quote from the primary source article:
Yeah CS is so well played and liked by its current community they dont want to leave to any game, even if its a new CS. These people get upset over the slightest changes, because they have already dedicated their life to mastering this game.

So where would a new CS fit in? The hardcore group already has CS and has spent their time mastering it. While everyone else would not be appealed by its archaic gameplay.
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obsolete? have you played L4D2 maxed out? that game is gorgeous.

Portal 2 is no graphical slouch either.
Yes I have played L4d2 maxed out and I wasn't very impressed, particularly the character models. Portal 2 was a little better, but there weren't "characters" per say for me to judge it.
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I have to say this reminds me of the Samaritan UE3 Demo. Old engine and yet it's still capable of doing things. I'm sure Valve could do the same.
     
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come on valve, i want some DX11 goodness from you guys.
i imagine a DX11 engine from them would be phenominal, i mean jeeze, source still looks great, take the cinematic mod for HL2, that looks awesome.

so, if an engine that old can still compete with current games graphically, i cant imagine what they could do with DX11.
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