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COD is just the same engine and the same game. the fact that it's the same engine every year makes it even more glaringly obvious that they're just copy-pasting the same crap for each game.

Valve games on the other hand are awesome, look great, and run on almost any computer and consoles perfectly.
LoL, wow.
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Steam > Valve
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Can't wait for HL3DM, source 2 or no source 2.
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Its funny how people on this site rip COD apart for this very reason, yet valve is allowed a free pass. While the source engine has aged well, it does look obsolete compared to newer engines today.
Source engine tears the "IW engine" to shreds IMO. What you're saying points out exactly WHY we kick COD to the curb and praise Valve.

Source engine is used across a dozen AMAZING titles, that are entirely different games and even different genres:

Half Life 2/E1/E2 - Those, fine, I'll chalk those up as being "one game"
Counter Strike Source
Day of Defeat Source
Team Fortress 2
Portal 1/2
Left 4 Dead 1/2
Sin (it was a decent game, it's a shame the series follow-up seems to have been dropped dead)

The IW engine has been used for the same exact game with identical gameplay and reskinned models, maps, and a different campaign. FIVE times, for MW1/2/WAW/BO/3.

Nothing says that Valve can't drastically improve the visuals that the Source engine has provided. That's all texures/modeling/skinning, something the COD franchise has pulled off between releases to make the newer title look slightly better.
Edited by Stealth Pyros - 10/16/11 at 10:05am
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um people who says that the source engine looks "awesome" by today's standards are either in denial or just straight-out valve fanboys.

i'm currently playing portal 2 and even though the game is fun, it is relatively simple and ugly. the lack of ambient occlusion greatly decrease immersion for me. i mean sometimes there is no shadow under a piece of debris and its just annoying. (you can tell my eyes are so used to crysis-level candies) also, the lack of HDR, low res textures, low-poly models, and no body/feet in first-person view really decrease the enjoyment for me.

i would never buy a valve game at full price ($50) simply because they use old technologies. i waited until portal 2 was $15 before buying it.
btw i'm currently running portal 2 with SLI 32xQ CSAA and SLI 8x TrSSAA and i'm still able to maintain 60fps despise the ridiculous amount of AA. show how old the technology is. without all the AA, i can pull 270-300 fps
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Originally Posted by captain_clayman View Post
COD is just the same engine and the same game. the fact that it's the same engine every year makes it even more glaringly obvious that they're just copy-pasting the same crap for each game.

Valve games on the other hand are awesome, look great, and run on almost any computer and consoles perfectly.
thank you kind sir for providing evidence to prove my point about valve-fanboys
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post #26 of 331
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Source engine tears the "IW engine" to shreds IMO. What you're saying points out exactly WHY we kick COD to the curb and praise Valve.

Source engine is used across a dozen AMAZING titles, that are entirely different games and even different genres:

Half Life 2/E1/E2 - Those, fine, I'll chalk those up as being "one game"
Counter Strike Source
Day of Defeat Source
Team Fortress 2
Portal 1/2
Left 4 Dead 1/2
Sin (it was a decent game, it's a shame the series follow-up seems to have been dropped dead)

The IW engine has been used for the same exact game with identical gameplay and reskinned models, maps, and a different campaign. FIVE times, for MW1/2/WAW/BO/3.
What does the quality of the game have anything to do with the engine? You say that the source engine rips IW engine to shreads, then go on listing gameplay features. Both game engines while looking alright look obsolete to new engines. Also I never liked any valve games except for maybe Portal.
Edited by sausageson - 10/16/11 at 10:08am
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Steam > Valve
I have to agree, the thing valve put out imo was steam, I dont care much for their games.
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um people who says that the source engine looks "awesome" by today's standards are either in denial or just straight-out valve fanboys.

i'm currently playing portal 2 and even though the game is fun, it is relatively simple and ugly. the lack of ambient occlusion greatly decrease immersion for me. i mean sometimes there is no shadow under a piece of debris and its just annoying. (you can tell my eyes are so used to crysis-level candies) also, the lack of HDR, low res textures, low-poly models, and no body/feet in first-person view really decrease the enjoyment for me.

i would never buy a valve game at full price ($50) simply because they use old technologies. i waited until portal 2 was $15 before buying it.
Cinematic mod. I get your point and in no way do I think Source's visuals are up to par with BC2/BF3/Crysis/etc. but the engine is still going strong regardless of what you think, and it has vast room for enhancements which I'm sure are in the works for HL3/E3. IMO Source's water is still unmatched/barely matched by any released title, though there are some engine demonstrations that look amazing. Edit: Well, to be fair, Crysis water with Natual Mod is sick, that may be the single exception.
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I'd like it if they kept the style of Source for Source 2 but just improved the textures, maybe like the Frostbite 2 engine. Then again, a brand new engine is always exciting.
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Its funny how people on this site rip COD apart for this very reason, yet valve is allowed a free pass. While the source engine has aged well, it does look obsolete compared to newer engines today.
People like to overlook everything valve does, for one reason or another.
    
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