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If you're not running 1080p on a display that has 1080p as its native res, then you're doing it wrong :/
Most people buy large monitors for work/school related reasons, not to game. My monitor is a 24" 2048x1152 but I could not play near that res until a few weeks ago when I upgraded from a 3870 to 2x 6770's. Even on this monitor, 1280x720 looks great, and the framerate is super high.
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1920x1200 - 7.8%
1080p - 26%
720p - 17.8%
1280x1024 - 11%

Seems like most use 1080 or around it.
Incorrect. I'll let you figure out why.
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1920x1200 - 7.8%
1080p - 26%
720p - 17.8%
1280x1024 - 11%

Seems like most use 1080 or around it.
most = majority = >50% = cannot be surpassed (because the others can only be <50%)

i'd say only about a quarter of the gamers use 1080p. quite little. most use res wayy below it, such as the combined 17.8+11=28.8% people who is below 1080p in your little inadequate list.
my friend who has a 1280x1024 use a 1024x768 res to play.
just because their monitor maxes out at such and such doesn't mean they game at such and such.
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Now whose making up excuses


Brutuz you showed me a character model and I showed you a better one and your complaint was a small detail like sun glasses. Yet the portal girls shirt is painted on while you actually see the detail in ghosts clothing.

Now the thing is we are comparing different art styles since source is mostly cartoon as I stayed before.
I can barely see the detail, due to the blurry textures which Portal 2 doesn't have.

And I said that, most of your complaint regarding Chells model in Portal 2 is purely art style, not actual graphical quality. (Which, if you measure in polygons and texture size would probably be in Chells favor if you stripped off all the gear on Ghost, or put the same gear on Chell.)





@ Screen resolution discussion: If they have a native 1080p LCD and they don't run at the native res, they probably don't really care about graphical quality.
    
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Now whose making up excuses


Brutuz you showed me a character model and I showed you a better one and your complaint was a small detail like sun glasses. Yet the portal girls shirt is painted on while you actually see the detail in ghosts clothing.

Now the thing is we are comparing different art styles since source is mostly cartoon as I stayed before.
the girl with the "painted on shirt" is from HL2 which was release in 2004... not portal...

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I can barely see the detail, due to the blurry textures which Portal 2 doesn't have.

And I said that, most of your complaint regarding Chells model in Portal 2 is purely art style, not actual graphical quality. (Which, if you measure in polygons and texture size would probably be in Chells favor if you stripped off all the gear on Ghost, or put the same gear on Chell.)





@ Screen resolution discussion: If they have a native 1080p LCD and they don't run at the native res, they probably don't really care about graphical quality.
Why has nobody pointed out to you guys that the girl in question is Alyx from HL2 which is much older than the COD character Not portal... Fail Points to you both
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Why, OH WHY do people still use this argument?!?! Gameplay and Graphics are completely separate from each other and I don't see why one needs to be sacrificed for the other.

Most of the posters who are arguing for Valve to update their source engine aren't complaining that Valve games are boring. They just look boring. Hell, if Valve all of a sudden decided to use the Unreal engine to make their games, I don't think they would magically become less fun, but they sure would look a lot better. So please, stop using your childhood love for Valve to hide the fact that the Source engine is dated and severely behind other well known engines that are just as efficient
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You're correct, but here's the thing, what recent game with up to date graphics have the same replay value as games like CS, BF2, HL?

Unfortunately times have changed, and these AAA titles with excellent graphics aren't being replayed over and over. Games with multiplayer, have a pretty dead online scene once the new ones come out.
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You're correct, but here's the thing, what recent game with up to date graphics have the same replay value as games like CS, BF2, HL?

Unfortunately times have changed, and these AAA titles with excellent graphics aren't being replayed over and over. Games with multiplayer, have a pretty dead online scene once the new ones come out.
what does this have to do with graphics, a game can have good graphics and good gameplay; one does not need to die for the other to live. In fact you made my point with the games you listed. BF2 had superb gfx when it came out, in fact it was cutting edge for the time, HL2 when it first came out had some of the most wondrous graphics people had ever seen, even CS. Lord behold these games also had good game play

Do you not see how fail the argument of gorgeous games cant have good gameplay is?
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the girl with the "painted on shirt" is from HL2 which was release in 2004... not portal...



Why has nobody pointed out to you guys that the girl in question is Alyx from HL2 which is much older than the COD character Not portal... Fail Points to you both
2 things

1. where in the world is chell in HL2? And how can you say she wasn't in portal? or am I reading that wrong?

2. That Alyx pic I posted was from Episode 2 which came out in 2007 and MW2 came out in 2009. But remember what everyone said which they never change the engine so that means MW has the same graphics as MW2. Also MW came out in nov of 2007 aswell.
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Why has nobody pointed out to you guys that the girl in question is Alyx from HL2 which is much older than the COD character Not portal... Fail Points to you both
Did you see my post? It was Chell in Portal 2.
    
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Did you see my post? It was Chell in Portal 2.
Ok good I wasn't the only one thinking that.
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