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Yes, but you didn't read what I said. You should NEVER keep all your backups in the same building. This is as good as all them in the same basket. What if there was a fire? You are arguing against common sense here, I'm afraid.
No you are blaming a guy for things outside of his control. What if the whole planet explodes?

You arguing just to argue and put blame on the developer, while conveniently failing to blame the individual who STOLE it.

You DIDN'T read what I wrote and I quote myself:
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Don't be a twit. There is no protection from acts of God and acts of other idiots.
Furthermore, apparently there was a partial backup stored online. Which further illustrates that only current data in progress was lost. Which is a shame and still the fault of the douchebag who stole it. I really don't get people anymore. Who the hell would blame anyone more than that tosser who stole it?
Edited by RagingCain - 10/16/11 at 1:02pm
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No you are blaming a guy for things outside of his control. What if the whole planet explodes? You arguing just to argue and put blame on the developer.

You DIDN'T read what I wrote and I quote myself:
Yes the world could explode, and unless we store data on Mars then it is lost. However, keeping all your data in 1 room is very silly. For £5 they could have kept a USB stick at someone else's home. There is no excuse for not doing this.

I'm sorry but it's very well known, documented, tried, tested and proven that you should keep off-site backups of your data. There's not much more I can say other than to read some books on data backup and think about how easily this situation could and should have been avoided.

I shall not comment further on this as the message does not seem to be getting through.
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Yes the world could explode, and unless we store data on Mars then it is lost. However, keeping all your data in 1 room is very silly. For £5 they could have kept a USB stick at someone else's home. There is no excuse for not doing this.
I don't know which part of online backup do you not get.

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I'm sorry but it's very well known, documented, tried, tested and proven that you should keep off-site backups of your data. There's not much more I can say other than to read some books on data backup and think about how easily this situation could and should have been avoided.
Online backup + two local backups on separate machines. I could say more but that should suffice.

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I shall not comment further on this as the message does not seem to be getting through.
You do your IT "service" proud for knowing about backups. I sincerely hope you don't get mugged/burgled but if you do please refrain from telling us what you lost because I am sure it could have been prevented by yourself whatever was lost.
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Man that sucks. I thought at first it was customer's credit card info was stolen, although that wouldn't make sense since I think I did google payments for it.

I don't know when the update was, but they did have offsite backup. So the argument is moot at this point.
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I don't know which part of online backup do you not get.



Online backup + two local backups on separate machines. I could say more but that should suffice.



You do your IT "service" proud for knowing about backups. I sincerely hope you don't get mugged/burgled but if you do please refrain from telling us what you lost because I am sure it could have been prevented by yourself whatever was lost.
the really should have just bought a USB stick. When working with important data and data that is worth money keeping back-ups is essential hence the use of external hard-drives.

Could have saved them all this drama...
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Had never heard of project zomboid before, but it certainly sucks for them.

Personally, I do not back up to a computer in the same room, I don't back up to a computer in the same house, I don't back up to a computer in the same city.
I back up out of nuclear bomb radius. I suggest everyone does the same.
Just one external drive for me. I actually just recently started backing up my stuff.
It's nice to have that peace of mind.
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Yes shame on them for being robbed. No one would ever steal an external hard drive that maybe in the general vicinity of the computer. USB drives still plugged in the USB ports for Christ's sake. What the hell were they thinking, for not making 5 backups stored in separate safes using hexadecimal passcodes that are 24 characters long.... which could also probably have been physically nicked or broken into with an acetylene torch. They could have stored it on an external server! Which could then have also been stolen...

Don't be a twit. There is no protection from acts of God and acts of other idiots.
No one is saying this is entirely their fault, but they could easily, and should, have taken better precautions.

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This, that's like seeing a guy get jumped for his wallet then telling him 'Shouldn't carry money around, should all be in a bank.'
If you carry your life savings, in cash, on your person at all times, you are being stupid.

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The guy is mad at himself for not backing it up externally, nothing says the thief would not have taken that too.
Externally in this context means in a completely different physical location.

My important data is backed up locally, and at another address more than 900 miles away.

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No you are blaming a guy for things outside of his control. What if the whole planet explodes?
Being a victim is not outside one's control. Thieves exist. If you do not take reasonable precautions in the face of this reality, you'll get no sympathy from me.

Ideally people shouldn't need these to take these precautions, but the real world is not some utopia where everyone has everything they need/want and respects everyone elses property. The real world is crap hole filled with people waiting to take advantage of you. If you do not treat it as such, you will be victimized.

You are not defenseless unless you allow yourself to be.

And if the planet explodes everyone will be dead, and his work won't be very relevant.
Edited by Blameless - 10/16/11 at 5:44pm
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On the backups. In my IT department we can't afford to do online backups. However all data is stored on tapes. We have 3 copies of every server. One stored in another building. One taken off site every night for every server and another stored in the same building in a different area for quick retrieval. We are well prepared. As should every company be.

No excuse for backup problems. However it only takes it happening once for it to be fixed for all future events.
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Yes the world could explode, and unless we store data on Mars then it is lost. However, keeping all your data in 1 room is very silly. For £5 they could have kept a USB stick at someone else's home. There is no excuse for not doing this.

I'm sorry but it's very well known, documented, tried, tested and proven that you should keep off-site backups of your data. There's not much more I can say other than to read some books on data backup and think about how easily this situation could and should have been avoided.

I shall not comment further on this as the message does not seem to be getting through.
Something tells me you have a macbook.
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No source control?

I guess maybe they had it on one of the computers if they were working locally.
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