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Originally Posted by Heavy MG View Post
I dunno if it's real or not but usually CPU's aren't made on a process such as 40nm(Fermi GPU size) or 28nm(next gen AMD GPU size).

Ok thx,I wasn't sure but somehow I knew China and Malaysia box the CPU and ship them off.
the next die shrink will be 28nm pretty sure i heard that from AMD themselves, and many others did.
    
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I dunno if it's real or not but usually CPU's aren't made on a process such as 40nm(Fermi GPU size) or 28nm(next gen AMD GPU size).

Ok thx,I wasn't sure but somehow I knew China and Malaysia box the CPU and ship them off.
amd has 30% equity in global foundry .. so why would they stiff them of the money to fab their cpu's and give it to another fab who is more then likely to have problems ???
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amd has 30% equity in global foundry .. so why would they stiff them of the money to fab their cpu's and give it to another fab who is more then likely to have problems ???
AMD is only paying GloFo for the good dies,so maybe GloFo might be giving them crappy ones anyway?
TSMC makes AMD APU's,but are having yield issues because of the difficult process of making a CPU+GPU on one die. Does AMD use Global Foundries for their GPU's?
I'm sure AMD wouldn't want to lose their equity invested in the GloFo fab.
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Can we keep to the topic which is AMD possibly switching to TSMC for future CPUs
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amd has 30% equity in global foundry .. so why would they stiff them of the money to fab their cpu's and give it to another fab who is more then likely to have problems ???
They're already using TSMC..... Just not exclusively.

GF hasn't had their act together since the get go with BD, and with the power usage we're seeing, they still haven't.

A mature TSMC process would yield better overclocks at lower power usage; somnething BD needs bad.

The article says BD; so maybe 8170 will come via TSMC but that still seems unlikely. Time will tell. No one can really say anything otherwise at this point with all the doubting on BD all along, look what happened with all of that.
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post #26 of 46
It would take at least a year to redo Bulldozer on the 28nm process. No way they'd do it for a half node. Wouldn't be surprised if they tried to get more volume at 20nm though especially with TSMC pushing out HP first.
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Can we keep to the topic which is AMD possibly switching to TSMC for future CPUs
Yes, we were talking about what might have caused that switch. Low yields, inefficient CPU, and it's not winning performance awards either. If any or all of those things weren't the case they might not considering the switch.
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post #28 of 46
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Yes, we were talking about what might have caused that switch. Low yields, inefficient CPU, and it's not winning performance awards either. If any or all of those things weren't the case they might not considering the switch.
The main ones I was refering to were people talking about if the source is reliable and the codenames after what we know. Talking about why AMD might switch seems perfectly fine to me as that would relate to the topic
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the point is don't fire people up and then provide laughing results.....AMD might be switching waffle makers?........so what are they implying?.......GloFo is to blame for Bulls.....dozer?
    
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LOL - Looks like GloFo are the scape goats...
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