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Originally Posted by Steak House View Post
LOL - Looks like GloFo are the scape goats...
You think the power consumption is AMD's fault?
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post #32 of 46
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That's a good point, about how they might get chips from two places. However, what happens if one place has better yields than the other? That would be terrible if it was hit or miss to get a good CPU...
if one place puts out a hands down better CPU it would be dumb AMD not to market that one as a higher end chip, ie a real FX chip, while all the others that are just good enough to meet basic spec would be labeled as such
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post #33 of 46
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Originally Posted by blackbalt89 View Post
I agree.

I have no doubts that BD could be epic, but with the shoddy work coming from GF I don't see BD being able to live up to it's expectations.

Bad yields and an overall unrefined process has lead to the power hungry Bulldozers that we see today.

Give it time to mature and it will be epic. Similar to first gen Fermi to second gen Fermi. Huge improvement in power consumption and efficiency while based on similar architecture.

BD just wasn't ready for this world, but I feel we pushed AMD to release it too soon.
This guy knows what hes talking about

100% right. We wanted something that wasn't meant to be released yet..
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ouch... got to suck for GloFo
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post #35 of 46
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Originally Posted by Heavy MG View Post
I dunno if it's real or not but usually CPU's aren't made on a process such as 40nm(Fermi GPU size) or 28nm(next gen AMD GPU size).
If I remember correct the AMD ultra portable series of APU's are on 40 nm. For example, the C-50 processor.

On current tech it's also possible that manufacturers will be more reluctant to go smaller nm if the yields are relatively crappier and/or failure rate post manufacturing increases significantly enough. Ok 28 nm should not be small enough for reliability issues yet but if it gets as small as 10 nm or less then it's quite possible that not all CPU's might last a full year. Entropy is a *****, especially when combined with higher temperatures and very strong concentration gradients in a chip.
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Thats simply the transistor size, which increases over time do to available tech. Theres nothing exclusive to CPU or GPU or anything else.
    
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I predict a lot of people being laid off at Global Foundries. It's a shame too, good ol' American company.
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Hopefully this will be the best choice AMD have ever made, Well, Apart from the time they bought ATI.
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post #39 of 46
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I predict a lot of people being laid off at Global Foundries. It's a shame too, good ol' American company.
the main FAB is in dresden & they inherited another one in singapore (due to the ATIC's acquisition of chartered semi-conductor) & FAB 8 isn't even operational yet. If anything they'll be hiring for that FAB. As far as i know it'll be the germans that suffer (that is where BD is being fabbed)
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post #40 of 46
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I predict a lot of people being laid off at Global Foundries. It's a shame too, good ol' American company.
Hardly, 86% owned by ATIC.

" What is ATIC?

Established in 2008, the Advanced Technology Investment Company (ATIC) is a specialist investment company mandated to focus primarily on the global advanced technology sector. ATIC is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Mubadala Development Company. Established and owned by the Government of Abu Dhabi, Mubadala is a catalyst for the Emirate's economic diversification, managing long-term, capital-intensive investments that deliver strong financial returns and tangible social benefits to the region. "
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